It's the principle for me.

If "new website coming" was the reason to have a moratorium on web updates then it doesn't make sense that they updated the website with a news story such as the renaming of the One Energy Legends Lounge.

Honours are hard won and span and out-live CEOs, directors, owners, players and fans. They stand for all time and are the historic achievements of the club. They are the written testament of the entire raison d'être and proud record of the club. FFS it's a 1 minute job and should have been updated months ago if they gave a to$$.

Exactly, its not like that sort of update would take a major upgrade that is not worth doing if you're going to revamp the website anyway....its a quick update. Not doing it is just laziness and not really caring, which says it all.

KF makes big claims to the media: "We don't measure ourselves against other Super League clubs, we measure ourselves against the biggest sporting brands in the world". If you have that sort of ambition you have to be on top of details.

Tottenham Hotspur are in football probably in a similar relative position to us, aspirational of breaking the oligopoly of the top teams, ambitious off the field. Daniel Levy wants to build Spurs brand and says similar sort of stuff to KF about competing with biggest sporting brands in the world. But its a lot more convincing from him.

If Spurs won the FA Cup, how quickly would their website be updated? Do you reckon Levy would let them get away with leaving it for months?

Overall the club website isn't bad. The colours look great. They have a good sense of design. There's obviously talent at the club staff off the field as well as on it, I think they need some better management to get the best out of the club's potential. I definitely felt like we were a better run organisation when Gatcliffe was here.

Its not even a minute job it'd take seconds. Also i see KF is at it again - lying about Gelling choosing us over Wigan due to our squad being better. More free team talks for the opposition. He's a liability...and a buffoon.

Yeah this type of talk is what you say if you don't really believe you are the best, but you want to talk yourself up.

He's saying in the Warrington Guardian that it was very disappointing that we didn't beat Wigan four times out of four last year and he 'expects us to complete a clean sweep over them' this year.

In Super League anyone can beat anyone. Saying you expect us to clean sweep Hull KR or Toronto Wolfpack is asking for trouble. Talking like that about Wigan is ridiculous.

Look at how Jurgen Klopp carries himself now Liverpool are winning all the time. He's not a boring cliched rent-a-quote, he manages the media well, but you would never get him saying something like 'well I expect us to do the clean sweep over United, with the quality of our squad!' He lets results do the talking and he respects his opponents.

We're playing Wigan first game of the season, so if we lose that, KF is already a laughing stock with his talk of clean sweep.

Quote ="sally cinnamon"Yeah this type of talk is what you say if you don't really believe you are the best, but you want to talk yourself up. He's saying in the Warrington Guardian that it was very disappointing that we didn't beat Wigan four times out of four last year and he 'expects us to complete a clean sweep over them' this year. In Super League anyone can beat anyone. Saying you expect us to clean sweep Hull KR or Toronto Wolfpack is asking for trouble. Talking like that about Wigan is ridiculous. Look at how Jurgen Klopp carries himself now Liverpool are winning all the time. He's not a boring cliched rent-a-quote, he manages the media well, but you would never get him saying something like 'well I expect us to do the clean sweep over United, with the quality of our squad!' He lets results do the talking and he respects his opponents. We're playing Wigan first game of the season, so if we lose that, KF is already a laughing stock with his talk of clean sweep.'" Exactly. With this we are coming across as absolutely and utterly classless. https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/warrin ... 17GxWoUySE

Quote ="sally cinnamon"Yeah this type of talk is what you say if you don't really believe you are the best, but you want to talk yourself up. He's saying in the Warrington Guardian that it was very disappointing that we didn't beat Wigan four times out of four last year and he 'expects us to complete a clean sweep over them' this year. In Super League anyone can beat anyone. Saying you expect us to clean sweep Hull KR or Toronto Wolfpack is asking for trouble. Talking like that about Wigan is ridiculous. Look at how Jurgen Klopp carries himself now Liverpool are winning all the time. He's not a boring cliched rent-a-quote, he manages the media well, but you would never get him saying something like 'well I expect us to do the clean sweep over United, with the quality of our squad!' He lets results do the talking and he respects his opponents. We're playing Wigan first game of the season, so if we lose that, KF is already a laughing stock with his talk of clean sweep.'" Exactly. With this we are coming across as absolutely and utterly classless. https://www.wigantoday.net/sport/warrin ... 17GxWoUySE

Quote ="sally cinnamon" Look at how Jurgen Klopp carries himself now Liverpool are winning all the time. He's not a boring cliched rent-a-quote, he manages the media well, but you would never get him saying something like 'well I expect us to do the clean sweep over United, with the quality of our squad!' He lets results do the talking and he respects his opponents'" https://talksport.com/football/618418/j ... ly-defend/

Quote ="sally cinnamon" Look at how Jurgen Klopp carries himself now Liverpool are winning all the time. He's not a boring cliched rent-a-quote, he manages the media well, but you would never get him saying something like 'well I expect us to do the clean sweep over United, with the quality of our squad!' He lets results do the talking and he respects his opponents'" https://talksport.com/football/618418/j ... ly-defend/

If Wigan use spoiling tactics against us and KF raises that in the media after the game it's fair enough. It's different from boasting that you're going to do the clean sweep over them.

Price commenting on tactics after a game is one thing. A CEO needs to set an example to others and be a figurehead for the club. Being accused of telling lies in the RL press is not a good outcome and damages both him and the reputation of the club. If indeed he has lied I wonder what else he has lied about.

Let's hope Widdop isn't Harry Kane then.

I wonder whether the new website launch might be happening to coincide the club's official season launch next week?

That's the normal sort of thing you'd do.

As for not updating the honours board for the Challenge Cup win last year maybe somebody has took the same view of many on here apparently and decided Challenge Cups count for nothing until we've won a Super League title.

To be honest though I don't need to go on the club's website to check whether we won the Challenge Cup last year. I have my memories from being there on the day to confirm it. Guess if you weren't there on the day you might need the website honours board to remind you.

Very true. I forget a lot of things nowadays. Obviously I'll regret not going to Wembley last year until my dying day. Everyday I self flagellate in recrimination recanting my decision. I wish I could swap just 1 of the GF failures I endured to be there.

What's your opinion on KF and his media approach?

Wasnt it Shankly who said to give the opposition 'toffee'? KF seems intent on doing the opposite which would rile me if i were coach. You dont need trash talk to build up hype around a game. It's crass, lazy and will backfire.

The purpose of the club website isn't to remind existing fans what they have won, its presenting the club brand to the rest of the world and most importantly to the new audience.

Surely "2019 Challenge Cup Winners" should be a key part of the brand that we should be shouting from the rooftops. It shouldn't just be about whether the bit in the honours section was updated.

I remember back when Bradford Bulls were a thing, they beat Newcastle Knights in the WCC game and they had the whole "follow the World Champions" branding ready to go next day.

For any fan potentially new to rugby league who is browsing about the club website I would want them to pick up some messages pretty quickly:
- we're one of the better teams
- we've won four Challenge Cups in the past decade
- there's a lineage of legends at the club, including the greatest try scorer in history
- we've just signed Gareth Widdop who is a big deal
- Blake Austin has a highlights montage that would make say a general RU or sports fan think, this guy is worth watching

I know you probably think that me and Wires71 have a bee in our bonnet about a petty point and hopefully when the new website is launched it will all go away.

I think what grates with me more than the general sloppiness is that if I was working at the club and had access to updating the website, I'd have gone on and updated the 2019 win to the club honours board on the night of the cup final win. Not because it was my job but because I'd just want to see it when I clicked refresh and it was up there proudly on the page. We haven't won that many trophies since I've watched the club so I want that to be something we make a big deal of.

I'm also a bit disappointed that in general the fanbase seems to have taken a 'meh, it was ok' attitude to winning that cup. It was the best big game performance I've ever seen from a Wire team. We made a far bigger deal over losing at Wembley in 1990 than we did of winning in 2019.

Agree they should have updated the website the same night.

Anyway I'm off in to exile again mate. I'll leave this place to the "serious fans". Seems if you don't agree people just do out of order things; so not for me.

If you ever up here and fancy a catch up over a pint again let us know.

I think you do a fair few regular posters a disservice. There is more than one view point represented on here, there is no reason not to post your own views.

I didn't realise using a first name was in breach of the AUP "out of order" and I won't do it again and the post has been edited.

No need to flounce out. PM me and we can sort it out in person.

I Emailed KF to see what was going on with Website re, lack of updates, fair play to him i have got a reply.

Hi Gareth

Thanks for the note.

Absolutely, we were hoping to launch the new site pre- Christmas but we needed a little more time to ensure it was fully tested and rich in content. We are hoping to launch it before the start of the first Super League fixture.

Agree, RE current website, it’s average at best!
Regards,

Karl Fitzpatrick
CEO

Club website due to be replaced at end of January. Much needed and I'm looking forward to seeing how it looks and if I can make it through a full purchase without an error page. Good times.

Quote ="sally cinnamon"The purpose of the club website isn't to remind existing fans what they have won, its presenting the club brand to the rest of the world and most importantly to the new audience. Surely "2019 Challenge Cup Winners" should be a key part of the brand that we should be shouting from the rooftops. It shouldn't just be about whether the bit in the honours section was updated. I remember back when Bradford Bulls were a thing, they beat Newcastle Knights in the WCC game and they had the whole "follow the World Champions" branding ready to go next day. For any fan potentially new to rugby league who is browsing about the club website I would want them to pick up some messages pretty quickly: - we're one of the better teams - we've won four Challenge Cups in the past decade - there's a lineage of legends at the club, including the greatest try scorer in history - we've just signed Gareth Widdop who is a big deal - Blake Austin has a highlights montage that would make say a general RU or sports fan think, this guy is worth watching I know you probably think that me and Wires71 have a bee in our bonnet about a petty point and hopefully when the new website is launched it will all go away. I think what grates with me more than the general sloppiness is that if I was working at the club and had access to updating the website, I'd have gone on and updated the 2019 win to the club honours board on the night of the cup final win. Not because it was my job but because I'd just want to see it when I clicked refresh and it was up there proudly on the page. We haven't won that many trophies since I've watched the club so I want that to be something we make a big deal of. I'm also a bit disappointed that in general the fanbase seems to have taken a 'meh, it was ok' attitude to winning that cup. It was the best big game performance I've ever seen from a Wire team. We made a far bigger deal over losing at Wembley in 1990 than we did of winning in 2019.'" My website was updated with the Challenge Cup win by 10pm on the Saturday night! The previous honours page was incomplete anyway (in relation to the South West Lancs League for example). Tbf, the club have acknowledged this, and I believe are doing something about it with the new site. For those interested, my site is www.warringtonrugbyheritage.com

Quote ="sally cinnamon"The purpose of the club website isn't to remind existing fans what they have won, its presenting the club brand to the rest of the world and most importantly to the new audience. Surely "2019 Challenge Cup Winners" should be a key part of the brand that we should be shouting from the rooftops. It shouldn't just be about whether the bit in the honours section was updated. I remember back when Bradford Bulls were a thing, they beat Newcastle Knights in the WCC game and they had the whole "follow the World Champions" branding ready to go next day. For any fan potentially new to rugby league who is browsing about the club website I would want them to pick up some messages pretty quickly: - we're one of the better teams - we've won four Challenge Cups in the past decade - there's a lineage of legends at the club, including the greatest try scorer in history - we've just signed Gareth Widdop who is a big deal - Blake Austin has a highlights montage that would make say a general RU or sports fan think, this guy is worth watching I know you probably think that me and Wires71 have a bee in our bonnet about a petty point and hopefully when the new website is launched it will all go away. I think what grates with me more than the general sloppiness is that if I was working at the club and had access to updating the website, I'd have gone on and updated the 2019 win to the club honours board on the night of the cup final win. Not because it was my job but because I'd just want to see it when I clicked refresh and it was up there proudly on the page. We haven't won that many trophies since I've watched the club so I want that to be something we make a big deal of. I'm also a bit disappointed that in general the fanbase seems to have taken a 'meh, it was ok' attitude to winning that cup. It was the best big game performance I've ever seen from a Wire team. We made a far bigger deal over losing at Wembley in 1990 than we did of winning in 2019.'" My website was updated with the Challenge Cup win by 10pm on the Saturday night! The previous honours page was incomplete anyway (in relation to the South West Lancs League for example). Tbf, the club have acknowledged this, and I believe are doing something about it with the new site. For those interested, my site is www.warringtonrugbyheritage.com

That would be a pity as all views should be welcome.

Hopefully not long to go now re: new website.

I believe the new site goes live tomorrow. I’ve seen it; looks good

Indeed. Sadly it didn't.

That was the plan, but for some reason it was delayed. The version I’ve seen looks final now, so expect this imminently...

Good stuff.