A few people are liking this. Pease, along with WireWireWire, tell me which teams out of Stains, Wigan, Catalans and Leeds you are expecting us to displace next season?

BTW, I think we will displace at least one with Powell as coach. But optimism has to be paired with realism as well. Just expecting the best case scenarios with anything leads to delusion.

I called all this entitlement nonsense last week - Our fans, especially the obvious few who pop up on here, are the most deluded, entitled bunch in the league. The absolute equivalent of those Chelsea and Arsenal fans who you see all over social media.

Got to the point where I've ended up just laughing at some of the stuff they come out with, both on here and on social media, and have reached the point where I want us to go down just to watch the frothing at the mouth and the overall meltdown that it would create...

Absolutely spot on. Thank you Dita's Slot Meter.

And same here, if it weren't my club, I'd wish for Warrington to go down.

If Simon Moran read some of the absolute rubbish on here, and thought this truly reflected our fan base, than I'm certain he would pull his money out and spend it elsewhere. I've criticised redvee for stuff like this before and our fans have also: but they're a much more successful club than us.

Hate to say this, but I'm truly ashamed to be a Warrington fan reading the absolute dog on here posted by some absolute dog posters.

I often read your posts and shake my head, often at the nonsense that you spout. This one is no exception. You’re turning into a Kremlin propaganda machine.

Everyone can see that we need to improve the kicking game, but a number of posters on here have pointed out that Dean has as much chance as any of being that general half back, if coached properly.

Regarding the experience and leadership that you somehow want Gale to bring, the coach the YOU are trusting with the rebuild has gone on record saying that he has chosen Ratchford for that role, giving him a contract to do so. So are you planning a rebuild on the current rebuild?

Williams is an expensive and experienced half back, Ratchford has been selected to partner him with Dean the understudy. POWELL gave them all the contracts, so if you are suggesting bringing Gale in, in doing so, you’re saying that the rebuild is a failure already. He’s signed up a fullback too, before you start shuffling the deckchairs. So is the coach doing a good job of rebuilding and should he be trusted to continue to do so, or has he got it wrong already and we now need to rip up more contracts and go back to square one?

The coach for next year (as it stands) has singed up players for his project for all positions but 9 and 11, he is currently going through the longest pre-season in history building and testing combinations against live opposition. So he will have a hand picked squad with funds made available, with time to prepare and “gel” and his coaching staff to assist. WHY should 5th be acceptable goal? The goal next year should be, if the coach and the players that the coach has selected, to win it. If not, it’s the wrong coach or he has signed the wrong players, surely?

Your tone is far to obnoxious for someone talking so much dribble.

Would have loved to have heard what Ratchford and Cooper were saying to each other at the end.

Tell me what is deluded/arrogant about wanting to be higher than tenth place considering how our club is currently backed?

I’ve supported Warrington when my expectations were maybe a cup semi final/win against a big club/avoid relegation. Expectations have now rightfully shifted and to have the same expectations as we did when we didn’t have a pot to widdle in IS deluded.

I’ll say that for Powell he has stated his intentions are to make us the biggest and best and repeated winners of titles….he’s just not up to it.

For a short term fix, someone else suggested Gale quite a few pages back and I thought it wasn't a bad idea. I agree with you about Dean and actually agree with you about the half back situation.


However: don't just say we should be higher than 5th without justifying it.
I'LL ASK YOU THIS TIME:
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE DISPACING ANY OF SAINTS, WIGAN, CATALANS AND LEEDS NEXT SEASON? THESE 4 ARE SIMILARLY RESOURCED TO US, ARE ALREADY MORE ESTABLISHED, AND ALREADY HAVE GOOD COACHES?
EXPLAIN WHY IF ITS NOT SELF ENTITLEMENT?

WHAT MAKES YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE DISPACING ANY OF SAINTS, WIGAN, CATALANS AND LEEDS NEXT SEASON? THESE 4 ARE SIMILARLY RESOURCED TO US, ARE ALREADY MORE ESTABLISHED, AND ALREADY HAVE GOOD COACHES?
EXPLAIN WHY IF ITS NOT SELF ENTITLEMENT?

We won't be higher than 5th if your mate stays as coach. So, after being brought in to change the culture, get rid of the 'bad apples', bring in any player you want for next season, we are aiming for below where Steve Price used to have us finishing? Brilliant!

Because that would still be worse than where we were when we got rid of a coach who was deemed not good enough and/or not doing a good enough job.

Make changes to improve, not go back 2 places on the table.

If the coach is as good as we’re led to believe, he can get the best out of the squad that HE has selected, and therefore compete with those clubs you mention.

If we can’t compete with those clubs, just don’t spend the money. There’s no point in being an expensive 5th, 6th or 7th. Might as well be a locally produced and developing 10th with a view of organic growth.

Why do you always end up arguing with multiple people on here mate? Just take a chill pill and give the word “insult” a rest for a few days eh.

You can't fault the effort last night & if some of the individual breaks had come off maybe the score line would at least have been more respectable. Unfortunately, the perennial problems let us down, not making enough progress up field on sets of six, losing too much ground when defending sets then getting the ball back in the wrong part of the field & panic play leading to handling errors. This is a culture that has been with us for several seasons now & this is a culture that needs eradicating. It will interesting to see what difference our incoming potential penalty machine props make.
As for this season ,the table doesn't lie.

I say Mods ,would it be an idea to set up a separate mutual insult forum to stop threads getting bogged down with such ? It could be called "Behind the bike sheds after school".

You do realise that certain teams have improved since then so the picture has changed. It happens all the time you know.

I'll ask you the same question, see if you can answer it properly this time:
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE DISPACING ANY OF SAINTS, WIGAN, CATALANS AND LEEDS NEXT SEASON? THESE 4 ARE SIMILARLY RESOURCED TO US, ARE ALREADY MORE ESTABLISHED, AND ALREADY HAVE GOOD COACHES?
EXPLAIN WHY IF ITS NOT SELF ENTITLEMENT?

Because I can't stand spoilt, self entitled fans.

Why is it now self entitlement, when you yourself justify this rebuild by the predecessors team beating these teams and therefore a relegation battle is necessary so we can actually then complete with them? You have said that a team finishing 3rd and getting knocked out of the playoffs or cup by Cas, Salford and Hull KR means that this is necessary. So surely the end product of this rebuild is to compete and best these teams? Otherwise what is it for?

You’ll point at the volume of changes as mitigation, but this was manufactured by the coach, it’s all by design. So why can’t we expect to compete with them? We’ve signed players from Catalan and Wigan, we’ve signed current NRL players. Add that to the group of hand picked players that he will have worked with for 12 months at the start of next season, why should 5th be acceptable?

The coach has picked the squad in its entirety, aside from Currie, Clark and Mulhearn. The coach has picked the coaching team. We have exceptional training facilities, a strong reserve team and academy.

This isn’t entitlement, it’s what the board should expect as a return for the investment. I’m not saying that we must win everything, not at all. But we should be competing with these teams. If not, then the project has failed, as the club will have regressed.

Your point in itself is contradictory. Wigan’s coach has been in post for the same amount of time as Powell, and is similarly resourced. Leeds have a newer coach, and are similarly resourced. So why can’t we compete with these? We are at the same or further advanced in our project, are we not?

Don’t post on here then, that could work for us all.

I'm not standing by and letting a whole load of spoilt brats come on here unchallenged. It's embarrassing to my club.

Let's be honest, we would all take 5th next season. It would represent a massive upturn from where we are now. BUT 5th next year has to come with some signs that better things may be possible for 2024 and good playoff performances.

I want a team capable of beating everybody else if they play to their potential, I want to see better defence and attack, a LOT more composure in attack and defence and most importantly a massive amount more self confidence and confidence in each other, the fragility has to dissappear for us to compete. To get there we will need a tactical kicking game to make sure opposing teams start their sets on the back foot or at least control field position a lot more, a more aggressive defensive line (should be addressed with the new pack), players supporting attacking breaks, desperate to beat the defense up the field to make the most of line break gains and an aggressive defensive line.

If we lose next week he should go, if we survive but aren't looking like a much improved team unit all round after 5 games next season then he should go. I quite like the rebuild job, recruitment looks good but I really don't like the lack of improvement on our frailties week on week.

I'm sick to death of Gazwire on here.

I reckon everyone will agree with me with the exception of Dita's Slot Meter that Gazwire is a complete prick

Happy to be banned for life to get away from his laughable and insane posts.

Powell is a prick as well.

Are you seriously saying that its self entitled for us to expect to win 2 cc finals, and 3 1st round playoff games against lesser resourced teams? Seriously? Are you seriously making that comparison to the teams some are expecting us to overtake next year as a god given right?

The board and the fans brought Powell in to make the changes. Some players wouldn't play ball so there were more changes.

Do you seriously believe that a newly assembled squad has an expectation to outcompete teams with similar resources, who are already established at the top end of the table, with good coaches and settled players, within such a short time frame. Eventually yes, but it'll take midway through next season, at least, for the additional new players to bed in.

I've got other things to do, like watch Liverpool on the box. Looking forward to witnessing some proper club support.

Post of the season!!

If you're a spolit brat and constantly moaning on here, and you think I'm a prick...then brilliant. I'm doing my job. And I'll continue. I'm not standing by and having my club shamed by the self entitled dog on here.

Gaz it might help if you refrain from answering every post and to similarly all those calling Gaz out let's widen the debate a bit it's a self fulfilling prophecy that things will get over heated when the focus is on one thing/poster. I'm all for free speech but there is some terrible posting on here ATM no matter what side of the argument you are on.

Please smarten it up or we'll be in a lock fest

Never said god given right, or anything of the sort. I said that the team was competing with them, has had signing investment to take the club to the next level, so right to expect to compete again. It’s not self entitled, it’s doing the job that he was brought in to do.

The changes have been made, we have a new hand picked squad, conceded 30 points 4 weeks in a row despite not conceding 30 once last year. Tangible regression.

I believe Powell was appointed to take the club forward, in doing so, we should be competing with these teams. Yes. I don’t want to draw comparisons again, but in 2010 after the last bad apple brigade, we finished third. So it can be done.

Enjoy the football. Give us all 90 minutes off from your contradictory nonsense.

And whilst I've typed my hopeful message there we go.locked.

Anymore of this schoolyard chat and people will be put in detention and be taking a break from here

I'm sure that I'm not alone in stating that I'm absolutely fed up with it and as for the bad language save it for somewhere else