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| Quote ="gary numan"The point is you are holding Wakefield as a standard we should be aiming for but the reality is they are below us, so that doesn't make sense. St Helens is the standard we should be aiming for.'"
Nah, he was referencing effort. If salary is reflective of skill then we have more skillful players than Wakefield. Ergo, if our players put in the effort of those that Wakefield are, we'd all be booking trains to OT.
Instead we're 2 points ahead in the league, rotting in 10th. Nobody should be taking a smug view that we're ahead of Wakefield really
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| Quote ="Philth"Nobody should be taking a smug view that we're ahead of Wakefield really'"
I don't think anyone is?
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| I remember Wakefield beating us years ago at their place on Sky, John Kear was coaching them he said in the post match interview - a champion team will always beat a team of champions. Can't remember what year it was or who was coaching us at the time but it was a game we were expected to win. I don't think we've moved on much in that regard.
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| Quote ="Wires71"I don't think anyone is?'"
The arrogance of dismissing Wakefield's effort because of their league position is what I am perceiving to be smugness akin to "ha you don't want that effort, they're below us"
It's that mindset that arguably made Ruiz beat Joshua, made Sheffield beat Wigan and probably made Wakefield beat us 3 times this year.
God help us if we think that way towards Toulouse next week "meh these won't have any effort, they're bottom of the league, feet up lads"
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| Quote ="Philth"The arrogance of dismissing Wakefield's effort because of their league position is what I am perceiving to be smugness akin to "ha you don't want that effort, they're below us"
It's that mindset that arguably made Ruiz beat Joshua, made Sheffield beat Wigan and probably made Wakefield beat us 3 times this year.
God help us if we think that way towards Toulouse next week "meh these won't have any effort, they're bottom of the league, feet up lads"'" There was absolutely no smugness in my post. Trying to emulate how Wakefield play seems daft when they sit lower in the league. We have seen out team put in decent displays with as much effort as anyone but only occasionally. Good win for Wakefield but they are 'not all that'
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| I didn't say that Wakefield were "all that" - I referenced the effort, desire, etc that they showed last night.
But if people want to read it differently, well there's not much I can do about that.
If we don't show some of what Wakefield showed last night then we are in massive trouble. We cannot afford to drift complacently through the rest of the season thinking that we are better than them so will be fine.
Time to wake up Warrington.....come on Emporer Powell, time to earn your salary.
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| The title of thread is apt if applied to tomorrow, when Hull KR play Toulouse. A win for Rovers would be more important (in my view, as I'm struggling to see past a tonking at Wigan. If Toulouse get the two league points then it would give them momentum going into the very crucial game with us, and it would also increase the pressure on us against Wigan, Toulouse, and for the other four remaining fixtures. Time to dig out the lucky pants, everyone.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"The title of thread is apt if applied to tomorrow, when Hull KR play Toulouse. A win for Rovers would be more important (in my view, as I'm struggling to see past a tonking at Wigan. If Toulouse get the two league points then it would give them momentum going into the very crucial game with us, and it would also increase the pressure on us against Wigan, Toulouse, and for the other four remaining fixtures. Time to dig out the lucky pants, everyone.'"
As long as Toulouse keep losing, and we keep that four point buffer, I can sleep a little easier at night knowing that we’re another week closer to the end of the season.
I’ve liked that in the last few weeks Toulouse and Wakefield have played before us, therefore the pressure to win isn’t as great knowing that a loss wouldn’t change the situation at the bottom of the table. I’d dread to think how the team might react to a Toulouse win tomorrow and how it’ll reflect in their performance on Friday v Wigan.
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| Quote ="Peckerwood" I’d dread to think how the team might react to a Toulouse win tomorrow'"
With skill, steely determination, and guts. Stoically redoubling their efforts to ensure the win with style and aplomb
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"The title of thread is apt if applied to tomorrow, when Hull KR play Toulouse. A win for Rovers would be more important (in my view, as I'm struggling to see past a tonking at Wigan. If Toulouse get the two league points then it would give them momentum going into the very crucial game with us, and it would also increase the pressure on us against Wigan, Toulouse, and for the other four remaining fixtures. Time to dig out the lucky pants, everyone.'"
What, crikey, you’re not wearing your lucky underpants yet!
Go sniff em out tout de suit and don them ASAP, and don’t bother with the sling test.
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| Quote ="Wires71"With skill, steely determination, and guts. Stoically redoubling their efforts to ensure the win with style and aplomb
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“the team” here being Warrington wolves RLFC, just to clarify.
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| Are we not naming a squad for Friday or have I missed it?
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| Quote ="Superblue"What, crikey, you’re not wearing your lucky underpants yet!
Go sniff em out tout de suit and don them ASAP, and don’t bother with the sling test.
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No, but I will look for them, I will find them and I will wear them!
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https://warringtonwolves.com/news/2022/ ... gan-clash/
Warrington Wolves 21-man squad: Kyle Amor, Matty Ashton, Joe Bullock, Daryl Clark, Jason Clark, Ben Currie, Matt Davis, Riley Dean, James Harrison, Oliver Holmes, Peter Mata'utia, Tom Mikaele, Greg Minikin, Robbie Mulhern, Matty Nicholson, Stefan Ratchford, Josh Thewlis, Danny Walker, Jake Wardle, George Williams, Connor Wrench.
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| It's so frustrating cos our squad/team can play at a far higher level than this. We are not a bottom 3 team, but here we are. Shocking.
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| Well that was tense, next week would of been huge. We can’t win because of confidence we can’t win they say so what would the nerves be like if Toulouse had won tonite.
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| Phil Clarke just said on Sky we will either win or lose by 50, I think he is spot on with that assessment.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Phil Clarke just said on Sky we will either win or lose by 50, I think he is spot on with that assessment.'" nowt like sitting on the fence
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| Clarke actually said at the end there that Toulouse' managers farming background will see them in good stead for their remaining 5 games of the season. Cheers for that Phil.
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| Quote ="Bernie Teeth"Clarke actually said at the end there that Toulouse' managers farming background will see them in good stead for their remaining 5 games of the season. Cheers for that Phil.'"
He would know too, with the amount of bull he talks.
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| Weird though this sounds, part of me wanted Toulouse to win tonight, just to try to shake us out of our complacent "we'll be fine, we're better than Wakefield & Toulouse" attitude.
But they didn't, so we can just continue to sleepwalk through the rest of the season....and we're supposed to be happy about that?
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"Weird though this sounds, part of me wanted Toulouse to win tonight, just to try to shake us out of our complacent "we'll be fine, we're better than Wakefield & Toulouse" attitude.
But they didn't, so we can just continue to sleepwalk through the rest of the season....and we're supposed to be happy about that?'"
I understand where you’re coming from, but it’s more relief than anything else. The very existence of the club would have been in doubt without either a) us winning or b) Toulouse getting beat enough to stop them clawing it back.
I have no faith in us winning enough to make it safe under unrelenting pressure of a 2 point gap or even just being ahead on points difference. So we had to gamble on plan B, fortunately we live to fight another day.
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"Weird though this sounds, part of me wanted Toulouse to win tonight, just to try to shake us out of our complacent "we'll be fine, we're better than Wakefield & Toulouse" attitude.
But they didn't, so we can just continue to sleepwalk through the rest of the season....and we're supposed to be happy about that?'"
I know what you mean but that's very close to cutting your nose off to spite your face.
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| I don't care how we get there as long as we don't get relegated. Then, we see what next season brings.
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