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| Like I said....I've no morals anymore....
I don't care what goes in the veins or up the nose...
So long as we win the GF...Pies Saints and Bradford all couldn't win it without first cheating...
Our problem is too many TS pretty faced, nice and clean players...we need some Sean Wane ugly dirty biff types.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"The opposition when they see Hock running at them probably think, I wouldn't have wanted to face him in 2008, good job it's 2018 though.'"
Not sure of the exact date but I can remember playing the Pies at the HJ in 2011 or 12 & Hock ran all over SBW.
At that time I thought he was on course to be a Moz type player, shame that he never reached the heights that I thought he was capable of.
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| I've seen Hock give Bennie 'the don't argue' and Bennie turning into a mouse.
I'd rather have Hock as a make shift prop than Bennie but also adding...I'd like them both!
The jury is still out on Coops and Crosby atm for me...and I've seen one great game from Hill in a year.
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| Good to see the “clean slate” lasted well into the new season.
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"Good to see the “clean slate” lasted well into the new season.'"
They'll get that from Jan 1st.
Anyways regards Hill...thats a positive!
Prior to the WCF there wasn't any!!
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| I think we will see some good rugby in 2018 now the elephant is no longer in the room, just a pity Billy Smart didn't come knocking sooner. A source ,apart from the WG ,tells me we are looking very good in training.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I think we will see some good rugby in 2018 now the elephant is no longer in the room, just a pity Billy Smart didn't come knocking sooner. A source ,apart from the WG ,tells me we are looking very good in training.'"
We trained well week in week out last season to be fair if you believe Tony Smith.
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| ....and we were never far off!
....and not much between us...
Thank god the season wasn't won in summer.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Lol...
After last season, I have no morals.
All I think think of is the opposition when they see him running at them!'"
To be fair he battered Warrington when we played at the LSV last year still a [size=200NO[/size LOL
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"To be fair he battered Warrington when we played at the LSV last year still a [size=200NO[/size LOL'"
If he could deliver us a GF...could that buy out your moral stance?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If he could deliver us a GF...could that buy out your moral stance?'"
How many medals did Hock win with Wigan?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"If he could deliver us a GF...could that buy out your moral stance?'"
That's fallacious reasoning.
You could say that about any player or situation.
Should we re-sign Roy Asotasi?
No.
But what if we do and he single handedly delivered us a GF?
Should I drop out of school?
No.
But what if I do and start a business and become a millionaire?
It's not a reasonable argument.
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| Perhaps not...but!!
Price has said he wants another prop....a few of us think we need a prop...some of us think we need some biff, but there doesn't seem to be much available cap...
Hence Hock...since he is out of SL options, a modest wage but with the promising odds of big final appearance bonuses, might interest him and fill our void.
He who dares wins.
Great film.
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| ....and ring fence him with contract clauses if he misbehaves.
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| He who dares Rodney, he who dares - this time next year...
Seriously though, having a forward at our disposal with a bit of an edge to them - I'm completely behind. But there's surely got to be better options for a team with our aspirations than a 34 yr old Hock - who's had 5 clubs in the last 6 seasons, and who's body is on its way out.
He only gets mentioned because he's notorious - but mainly for the wrong reasons.
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| Quote ="Jimathay"He who dares Rodney, he who dares - this time next year...
Seriously though, having a forward at our disposal with a bit of an edge to them - I'm completely behind. But there's surely got to be better options for a team with our aspirations than a 34 yr old Hock - who's had 5 clubs in the last 6 seasons, and who's body is on its way out.
He only gets mentioned because he's notorious - but mainly for the wrong reasons.'"
Have to agree. I would never have wanted this 100% thug here anyway, but even if scruples were lowered beyond imagining he's now well past it and just a send-off liability.
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| Dave Tyrell is a name rumoured on Facebook.
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| Quote ="zzhead"Dave Tyrell is a name rumoured on Facebook.'"
That's why we've ignored it.
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| No to Hock, ignoring any moral dimension, he is a liability. In my view the same thought process applied to Chase when he was available.
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| Rehab players are not really the way the club should be heading .Tony Smith had his fingers burnt with Sandow & he made short work of getting rid of Bailey. Do we really want the club to be haunted by Hock as the ghost of the season yet to come ? I would much rather watch free flowing rugby than a liability from the age of biff.
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| Exactly. I get my biff from Youtube now watching the old games. The game is barely recognisable from even 15 years ago.
Newton, O'Connor, Cowie, Skerret, McDermott, Graham, pre Aus Moz.
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| ....and WW11
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| Lyrica works for sure, but it doesn’t quell the pain of rumours that amount to nothing... I remember the prescriptions after Paul Sculthorpe not signing on Boxing Day...
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| I'll get some to keep the missus happy.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I'll get some to keep the missus happy.'"
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