I always call it as I see it. No point in looking for excuses. The best side won.

Many around me were blaming Silverwood, but we were masters of our own downfall. Dirty play on both sides (Westwood was a bit of a pillock pulling a stunt like that, so early in the match. He COULD have been sent off)

Yes, the injuries didn't help (obviously).

To me the turning point was the charge down of Matty Smith's kick the ball bounced for him,could easily have bounced to a Warrington player who would have scored next set of six Wigan scored 12 point switch around.

I'm sorry but no ur wrong IMO
The Hanson ratchford tackle wasn't even a penalty. He tackles not attacks tackles the legs. Not the knee caps front on or side but in the way they naturally bend. Unfortunately he got hurt. Guess what it's a tough sport were when 34 18 stone men run full pelt into each other for 80 mins people get hurt accidents happen
For you to say purposely punching someone in the face isn't as bad because green stayed on the pitch is ridiculous

No it isn't. It's a veiled trolling thread disguised as an "inquest" thread.

I think until Monaghan and Ratchford went off injured the game was all yours. The Monaghan incident was just one of those things, but hansens tackle on Ratchford is symptomatic of the Pies since maguire took over. Attacks to the weight bearing, standing leg has been used regularly by them as a way to remove opposition players from the game. The RFL needs to get a grip of this tackle, because the Pies have no regress in causing opposition players serious injury.

I was shouting for you guys tonight and thought you had it. I now will have to put up with gloating inbreds all winter, until next season begins, and the dance begins again.

Won't stop you from trolling on here or the VT though, will it.

Hypocritcal t**t.

TBH, I HATE the charge down. I can't remember it working in our favour, since we trounced Wigan at home, in Sept '11

You idiot!!!!!!!!!
What's up have Wigan started winning titles again????
Just remind me how your taught rugby as a kid because I'm sure I was taught to tackle round the legs as"they can't run with out there legs"
If 1or 2 men have tackled a player but he's stayed on his feet what you expect us to do let him stand and get a quick play of the ball or try and get him on the deck? Guess how you do that you take there legs from under them
Every team in the league do it even your lot when they don't miss the tackle
Fool

Have to agree with all of this. Texted a mate at half-time saying fatigue/fitness wins or loses this. Ratch injury a disaster for Wire. The respect shown by both sets of players for each other at the end went a long way to alleviating my disappointment - if those lads can take defeat (and indeed victory) so honourably, who are we to get all y about it and chuck stuff at the telly (as I was doing).

Take a look in the mirror hombre!!!!!!!!!!!!!! better luck next time Wire you should not have come up with an empty sack this season IMO.

Combination of things IMO, the obvious incidents (as discussed) overall benefitted Wigan. I also think the wire players allowed themselves to mentally relax as the 3rd of the quick fire tries was scored. To be uber honest I've always felt players such as Bridge, Atkins & Briers are great when things are going well but not capable of producing the goods when they're up against it. That said, as with any big game, possession is the key. Wigan monopolized in that dept 2nd half

I'm not gloating though. I wanted warrington to win! Pies will be unbearable now. But if you can't handle an opposition fan debating on your board after losing the grand final that's your problem.

I think losing a grand final after being 16-2 up minutes before half time warrants discussion, whether you like it or not.

Oh please. You've been trolling on here all season, yet as soon as you beat us in the GF it's all faux praise bull like "aww, unlucky Wire. You were so close. Better look next time. You should have won at least one trophy this year".

You're a poor liar.

Keep trying hombre I'm not falling for it! It's not my words that are twisted on this board tonight..

They're on a seperate threads you loon. This is a serious thread. If i was trolling i'd have made those type of comments in this thread. Instead, i've refrained from making those type of comments on your own board out of respect.

Couple of points,
1/ hansens tackle was naughty, but not illegal
2/ when Joel was injured, wire players stood around, Wigan players were stretching, exercising and talking
3/ we should have taken the 2 just before ht, we never and Wigan score
4/ Myler was on the pitch
5: better team won, had more aggression and savvy than we did.
6/ try again next season.

Should have taken the 2pts and grinder out

Whilst it's easy to sit back after a coach trip home and a ponder to come up with reasons why? Lets not look too deep into it. It was minute to minute and with the enforced changes made it did rock the balance of the team.
Will there be another year? I'm not so sure with the players leaving and not many players coming in. Or as yet not named.

Injuries and age of team ........

I've no problem with teams not taking the two, the problem was not keeping the pressure on, with Bridge ending up going in touch followed by a wigan pen and the joel monaghan injury. Wire were not in the game after that. It's the risky way wire play. If it doesn't come off you invite the other team back into the game, like CC semi v hull.

There will be it is time now for Warrinton to build from the bottom like Wigan did last couple of years. We now have the infrastructure in the club to make sure we continue to improve.

The outgoing players have given us a great few years but time has caught up with all of them now. No need for big 30+ age signings

Collapse is a massive understatement in my opinion.I knew Wigan would come out the 2nd half all guns blazing + that's what they did + our defence at times was like the Red Sea parting.We had that game virtually in the bag but in typical Wire fashoin let the oppostion score almost bang on half time which would have made a big difference going in 16-2 as opposed to 16-8 as that late try certainly gave the pies the belief they could win the match.Never ever have i been so gutted to lose a match + this will take quite a long time to get over

Coz smith didn't play Hodgson off the bench. Went with 4 forwards. Cooper should had missed out.
No backs
...no plan b

Spot on. Lowest I've ever felt as a Warrington fan without a doubt - and that includes years of watching us at Wilderspool and countless trips to Knowsley Road. Water off a duck's back when you've got zero expectation in the first place, but it's not like that anymore.