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| Nobody comes out of this without taking their share of responsibility for what happened yesterday.
As I posted earlier I couldn't be bothered watching anymore after Catalan went 18-10 up, so I've not seen the end. Nor do I wish to from what I've read.
James Child and the other officials have to take responsibility for never being in control of that game.
The players need to take responsibility for their conduct on the field, and the totally wrong spirit that game was played in.
The supporters of both clubs need to take responsibility for their behaviour.
Catalan Dragons need to take responsibility for their stewardship of games.
No one gets any credit, and the game gets media attention, yet again, for all the wrong reasons.
I have no wish to watch or attend such games.
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| The trouble was caused by an accumulation of things:-
Frustration at Wires performance on the pitch.
Frustration at the standard of refereeing.
Provocation either verbal or otherwise by the Catalans fans.
Reaction to the punch up at the end.
Alcohol.
Remove any of those and it probably wouldn't have happened.
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| Quote ="TF and the wire"The trouble was caused by an accumulation of things:-
Frustration at Wires performance on the pitch.
Frustration at the standard of refereeing.
Provocation either verbal or otherwise by the Catalans fans.
Reaction to the punch up at the end.
Alcohol.
Remove any of those and it probably wouldn't have happened.'"
Remove alcohol and I doubt that the disgraceful scenes would have happened at all.
It seems to me that a lot of people go to rugby to drink, rather than for the rugby itself. Ban ALL alcohol in grounds for me, corporate boxes included.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Apologies if I'm reading this wrong the day after the game it's 30 odd degrees and I've got a dodgy Internet connection.... But speaking as someone on the second row of the little uncovered stand I saw poop house tactics on a level I've never seen before and I saw Wigan under mcguire...
Knees to the heads fists to the head... by loving Tony Gigot aswell... I bet he never even knew how to throw a punch 12 months ago... Little kicks to the heads.. Late shots on ball passers... And obviously punches... And a kelvin skerret style superman brawl entry.... Which was deemed "okay" by the ref.... The high tackles I don't really care about they happen every game....
It was just an all out disgraceful performance by catalan dragons.
We know James child is inept we know Sam Tomkins is a snake and spiteful human as is mcClorum. So it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone how that game turned out..
What is a surprise is the poop Chris Hill is getting
And off the unsiprsing returned Saints fan aswell....
He must have spoke to the ref half the times Tomkins did... And when he swore... From the clip I saw he wanted to go and check on his wife and kids..... When the Salford players waded in with fists flying a few years ago In similar circumstances it was allowed and widely applauded but oh Chris Hill speaking and a swearing.. What a disgrace....
You jokers...
Anyway I need to get in the shade before I freak out.....'"
So it's everyone's fault except Warrington's? In fact Wigan, who weren't even playing, get 2 mentions but not a single comment attaching any blame to your own club, players or fans? Just excuses as to why their actions were perfectly reasonable. Seriously? Good God! This post takes "one eyed" and "in denial" to whole new levels.
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| Quote ="DAG"17 pages and I’ve barely seen a mention of that cretin Kenny Edwards. An absolute disgrace of a man and one that the RFL needs to take action against. Trouble in the stands, players from both sides trying to calm them down, yet he’s on the bounce after another a scrap and trying to incite further trouble off the field.
Thug shouldn’t be allowed near a Super League pitch again.'" No question the worst grub in SL.
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Cheers. Watched plenty of tackles at slower speed, the knee tactic is there for all except the RFL and James “I can’t call it if I don’t see it” Child, to see.
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Cheers. Watched plenty of tackles at slower speed, the knee tactic is there for all except the RFL and James “I can’t call it if I don’t see it” Child, to see.
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| Looking at the last 5-10 minutes, It looks like Kenny Edwards has a lot to answer for. I am not sure but I think Ratboy got sent off for head butting Mamo.
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| Hello Wire fans.
I am going to restrict myself to what I know for certain .
A number of English clubs bring a large number of younger fans ,who get very very drunk. Warrington are such a club .Castleford are another . In midsummer with the temperature more than 30c 7 hours drinking can have a bad effect .
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| Quote ="catalanglais"Hello Wire fans.
I am going to restrict myself to what I know for certain .
A number of English clubs bring a large number of younger fans ,who get very very drunk. Warrington are such a club .Castleford are another . In midsummer with the temperature more than 30c 7 hours drinking can have a bad effect .'"
Had Ben Pomeroy been drinking?
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Looking at the last 5-10 minutes, It looks like Kenny Edwards has a lot to answer for. I am not sure but I think Ratboy got sent off for head butting Mamo.'"
mamo got a yellow for headbutting tomkins, tomkins got a red for punching him for it
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| Quote ="Pieman"mamo got a yellow for headbutting tomkins, tomkins got a red for punching him for it'"
If that was the case. It should have been Mamo that got the red card. Ratboy punching? He usually uses his knees.
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| So it's everyone's fault except Warrington's?
Nope never said that...
In fact Wigan, who weren't even playing, get 2 mentions
Only counted 1 as a reference to a previous house team
but not a single comment attaching any blame to your own club,
I wasn't taking about the off field ... I guess your anti Warrington rage got you jeed up
players or fans? Just excuses as to why their actions were perfectly reasonable.
As above your just frothing now...
I even make allowances for their high tackles... and ours.. as that stuff goes on every game.
Seriously? Good God! This post takes "one eyed" and "in denial" to whole new levels.
I've denied nothing.. as after all that happened I was simply questioning people havi g a go at Chris Hill... In fact at the game I wanted Hill to be more in the refs ear than he was because Tomkins was Controlling the ref..
But 9 out 10 for missing my point completley
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"Remove alcohol and I doubt that the disgraceful scenes would have happened at all.
It seems to me that a lot of people go to rugby to drink, rather than for the rugby itself. Ban ALL alcohol in grounds for me, corporate boxes included.'"
Why ban alcohol? Most rugby league fans drink responsibly and there is no trouble. Better still ban and jail the idiots who were involved in the fracas last evening, make Warrington and Catalan pay for additional stewardship and fine both clubs heavily. I think there may be some suspensions coming from that game, Wire are imploding the chairman and coach need to take action. Have the players forgot that they have a game at Wembley coming up?
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Damn, that disappeared quick
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"So it's everyone's fault except Warrington's? In fact Wigan, who weren't even playing, get 2 mentions but not a single comment attaching any blame to your own club, players or fans? Just excuses as to why their actions were perfectly reasonable. Seriously? Good God! This post takes "one eyed" and "in denial" to whole new levels.'"
Try reading through all the comments first, i slate our own fans with no excuses for them. Stop trying to make out ALL Warrington fans are the same because we're not . We've got some right bellend fans but so do Hull who always cause trouble at our ground and so do Castleford and Wigan, Even saints have some bellend fans. On the pitch we lost our Temper but Catalans were much much worse and were literally punching downed players and using knees every chance they got, they're disgraceful. The Ref didn't do his Job at all the e house and made tempers even worse and our bellend fans went WAY over the top. If my little boy was there and all that supposedly happening from the box actually happened i would have taken him out the way, not scaled the walls trying to knock someone out, literally undefendable EVEN if a kid got hurt, get security involved and get them arrested. We look like an absolute disgrace of Club now even to some of the other scummy teams clubs and fans
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"So it's everyone's fault except Warrington's?
Nope never said that...
In fact Wigan, who weren't even playing, get 2 mentions
Only counted 1 as a reference to a previous poop house team
but not a single comment attaching any blame to your own club,
I wasn't taking about the off field poop... I guess your anti Warrington rage got you jeed up
players or fans? Just excuses as to why their actions were perfectly reasonable.
As above your just frothing now...
I even make allowances for their high tackles... and ours.. as that stuff goes on every game.
Seriously? Good God! This post takes "one eyed" and "in denial" to whole new levels.
I've denied nothing.. as after all that happened I was simply questioning people havi g a go at Chris Hill... In fact at the game I wanted Hill to be more in the refs ear than he was because Tomkins was Controlling the ref..
But 9 out 10 for missing my point completley'"
And still you carry on. Unbelievable. I actually don't have an anti Wire agenda of any sort and was actually not intending to post until I read your garbage. In fact, feel free to browse my posts and try to find a single post against Wire. It's you who's frothing.
As to your reply. So Kelvin Skerret wasn't a Wigan reference then? I'm sorry that you struggle to count to 2 but 10 out of 10 for missing the point anyway. That Wigan feature at all in your response is an utterly ridiculous attempt to deflect. Please point out where you reference any Warrington misdemeanours for balance. Struggling? Let me help you out; there are none.
You've denied nothing? So you've accepted your club, players or fans should shoulder some blame? I must have missed that. Care to point it out for me? Let me help you; you haven't.
"It's everyone's fault except Warrington's. Nope never said that." Care to point out where you've attached any blame to Warrington? Let me help you out;
except
/ɪkˈsɛpt,ɛkˈsɛpt/
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not including; other than.
See how that works? Again, I'm sorry if you struggle with words as well as numbers. Hope I've been of some assistance.
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"Remove alcohol and I doubt that the disgraceful scenes would have happened at all.
It seems to me that a lot of people go to rugby to drink, rather than for the rugby itself. Ban ALL alcohol in grounds for me, corporate boxes included.'"
The games on its ar$e enough as it is.
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| Purely from a Wire perspective I’d like to see some true leadership from the club both on the field and off the field. Anybody that thinks Chris Hill is a leader of men is massively wrong. Even with my rose coloured biased specs on he just infuriates me and commands zero respect.
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| Quote ="Phuzzy"And still you carry on. Unbelievable. I actually don't have an anti Wire agenda of any sort and was actually not intending to post until I read your garbage. In fact, feel free to browse my posts and try to find a single post against Wire. It's you who's frothing.
As to your reply. So Kelvin Skerret wasn't a Wigan reference then? I'm sorry that you struggle to count to 2 but 10 out of 10 for missing the point anyway. That Wigan feature at all in your response is an utterly ridiculous attempt to deflect. Please point out where you reference any Warrington misdemeanours for balance. Struggling? Let me help you out; there are none.
You've denied nothing? So you've accepted your club, players or fans should shoulder some blame? I must have missed that. Care to point it out for me? Let me help you; you haven't.
"It's everyone's fault except Warrington's. Nope never said that." Care to point out where you've attached any blame to Warrington? Let me help you out;
except
/ɪkˈsɛpt,ɛkˈsɛpt/
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not including; other than.
See how that works? Again, I'm sorry if you struggle with words as well as numbers. Hope I've been of some assistance.'"
No idea what the you are on about..... Its why I don't bother on here any more.... See you in a few months... Keep it up though outstanding drivel....
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Purely from a Wire perspective I’d like to see some true leadership from the club both on the field and off the field. Anybody that thinks Chris Hill is a leader of men is massively wrong. Even with my rose coloured biased specs on he just infuriates me and commands zero respect.'"
True, gets caught up in the emotion and the team suffers for it. Leaders should have a cool head, something Hill doesn't have in the slightest.
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| Quote ="Jack Napier"True, gets caught up in the emotion and the team suffers for it. Leaders should have a cool head, something Hill doesn't have in the slightest.'"
Very immature and quite pathetic at times. I’d like to see a new Captain; someone that is clearly in charge without having to even be nominated as Captain but I’m not sure we have that player. Morley, Monaghan type leaders is what we need.
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| Quote ="Big Ask"Purely from a Wire perspective I’d like to see some true leadership from the club both on the field and off the field. Anybody that thinks Chris Hill is a leader of men is massively wrong. Even with my rose coloured biased specs on he just infuriates me and commands zero respect.'"
Said it on here before, Daryl Clark should be captain.
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| Watched it back again and will be surprised if McIlorum isn’t banned for the knee to Clark’s face as well as ripping Hill’s skullcap off. Grubby barsteward. He grips and inch lower and he’s gouging eyes. I’ve never seen a headguard fly off accidentally and the linesman actually tried to tell the ref.
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| Quote ="matt_wire"Watched it back again and will be surprised if McIlorum isn’t banned for the knee to Clark’s face as well as ripping Hill’s skullcap off. Grubby barsteward. He grips and inch lower and he’s gouging eyes. I’ve never seen a headguard fly off accidentally and the linesman actually tried to tell the ref.'"
Banned for ripping a headguard off have a word with yourself. Great effort deflecting attention from your hooligans though
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