That's mitch clark whos made 9 appearances for wigan this year, thst wigan fans all with rid of and has been told he can leave 12 months into his contract?

KF has been to see the Widdop family for negotiations, in his role as Michel Barnier, to make him stay at the HJ.

He's come back with a 34 year old prop with no knees, a Rolf Harris CD, and 4 pack of Castlemaine XXXX.

Ah well

That has to go down as his most successful negotiation to date.

A lazy effort from LG, as his form teacher I know he can do so much better C-

Yeah still more Games than Latu and Sita hence the step up comment, and as i stated a squad filler. Better than Latu and Sita so i stand by my comment.
He wouldn't cost much and wouldn't take a Quota spot, and seeing as there are pretty much no quality props running around off contract we could do worse.

Wigan s version of Latu.

He's bang average, he's not wigan quality, it was bizarre that they signed him, he's been crap there, there's talk elsewhere on this board about the club making bad decisions, this would be an awful signing for us and more ammo for the KF haters.

I realise in the current climate its not possible but i'd be putting a fat sack of cash down for matty english at huddersfield.

Yeah but again why would they let him go when he's one of the better forwards they have, they won't just let him go. Looking around there's nobody about Propwise we could realistically pick up, Kibula has a long way to go, Latu is awful and Price clearly doesn't want to play Sita so potentially we're 3 forwards down. 4 if the rumours of Luis Johson being shopped around are true. Unless Doro gets more game time and robson we're still light in the forwards.
Although running with Hill, Cooper, Philbin and now Butler we're looking better in the forwards for next year, but i still think we lack the depth.
Really scratching my head as to what forward we could bring in....if we even have cap space that is?
Mitch Clark, Sam Moa, Remi casty are Available, Clark being the cheapest really. Ukuma Ta'ai is off contract and if he is over his injury and can get fit he would be a good option as an impact Prop for a year. But unless we can entice a forward from another club, we'll be running with Latu, Sita and Kibula as back up props, Doesn't bode well really

We could do worse...like not signing a prop, so our only successful halfback during the SP era could help SL’s highest paid unsuccessful halfback achieve something.
Only saying... Packs wins games.

Reicon_razz.gifrops. Get on the phone to Leeds and find out where they scout props cos they seem to find and produce them no problem and while we're at it get Sinfield in on a 6 month conditioning contract to work with Akuola, Latu and Kibula.

Bloke has expended more energy lacing up his trainers every day in the last week than that lot did all last season.

Crosby and Wellington Albert. Plus Merrin on marquee went home after one year and the South Sea islander with the long name Ava S****************************** is supposedly not coming back from Aus either.

They are linked with Luis Johnson though.

Do they? How come theyve signed bodene thompson as a 'middle' ?

Leeds have struggled to replace peacock since his retirement, singleton was an ok bench prop, they've kept on with cuthbertson way past his best, garbutt was good but injured a lot, they brought Merrin over, an international backrow and played him at prop.

Theyve done alright with prior this year buy he's a workhorse tackler more than a go forward prop.


As I've said a few weeks back, prop/middle is a massive recruitment struggle for all teams

So, what is a middle a new term for ? Can someone please run that by me ?

Saints seem to do okay.

Middles are now yer big men that play in the middle of the field, not always an out n out prop.

Jason clark for example, is a middle, usually lines up at 13 but is used for your grunt work, but isn't what you would refer to as a loose forward

They haven't had much turnover for the last few seasons though.

Saints fans have lamented their props this year, outside of walmsley they've had their moments complaining about Graham, lees and lms.

Next season they dont have Graham, or thompson, let's see how they get on.

They've signed a backrow/middle so far haven't they?

Graham, Lees, LMS and Amor all walk into our squad though and are four really good forwards to have with Walmsley. Add to that Thompson for the last few years. Puletua, Solioa etc before that.

Yeah theyv'e signed Sione Mata'utia and Joel Thompson for next year.

All these struggles to sign a decent prop and none allegedly being available. All this while Hull KR go and sign Korbin Sims, while we’re sat twiddling our thumbs and look set to be over dependent on Hill and Cooper once again.

amor is another one, saints fans have wanted rid for a few years.

Puletua left in 2013 alongside the same time morley et al did here, how far back are we going


*also, massive thread drift here.

kr have money spare after releasing 13 players, the rest of their middles (so far) are

Robbie Mulhern (2021), Will Maher (2021), George Lawler (2021), George King (2022), Anesu Mudoti (2022).

not exactly the most fearful set of front rowers, although i do like mulhern, i think he could do ok somewhere like here or wigan off the bench.

Yes, every signing is a gamble, but we seem to be backing more and more outside bets in the hope they are much better when playing for us. Why do this when were struggling to get the best out of good players such as BMM. There will always be squad fillers within a SL club, but we need the ones with the desire and determination to wear the shirt, and a coaching system that's not afraid to give opportunity on merit.

BMM was a disappointment without doubt, but more to do with injuries than coaching I think.

Last one they signed was Junior Paulo who sank into anonymity before being released. He didn't come cheap either.

Clark? A big man????? I've seen bigger in the Dennis the Menace fan club.

Leeds, yeah they've had some duds but i did say they are also bringing better quality forwards through as well as signing them; even so their current pack is streets ahead of ours.

Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Clark? A big man????? I've seen bigger in the Dennis the Menace fan club. Leeds, yeah they've had some duds but i did say they are also bringing better quality forwards through as well as signing them; even so their current pack is streets ahead of ours.'" I never said he was a big man, thats the point, Also, who are Leeds bringing through currently? Here's leeds squad from.this year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Le ... nos_season Cam Smith, and oledzki, everyone else is either foreign or has been brought in. Or back end of the squad fillers, much like Doro and robson . I realise I sound like im arguing or being contrary with everyone on this thread, im not, its just that a lot of people want to kick warrington and the board at the moment but if you look at things on a league wide basis, things aren't that much better across the board.

Quote ="morrisseyisawire"Clark? A big man????? I've seen bigger in the Dennis the Menace fan club. Leeds, yeah they've had some duds but i did say they are also bringing better quality forwards through as well as signing them; even so their current pack is streets ahead of ours.'" I never said he was a big man, thats the point, Also, who are Leeds bringing through currently? Here's leeds squad from.this year. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Le ... nos_season Cam Smith, and oledzki, everyone else is either foreign or has been brought in. Or back end of the squad fillers, much like Doro and robson . I realise I sound like im arguing or being contrary with everyone on this thread, im not, its just that a lot of people want to kick warrington and the board at the moment but if you look at things on a league wide basis, things aren't that much better across the board.