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| We need Williams at 6, and a 7 with a top kicking game.
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| Hayes too young and Dean not sure, Clifford sounded good but looks dead in the water, hey we have another big problem centres, who’s 3and4 next year !!
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| Looks like Steph and matautia no no no no no no!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"I don't think anyone is suggesting he's a bad player. Just that he's not produced much that makes you suddenly think you've seen the second coming of Briers, John Woods, or any top half back you can care to remember.
Probably comes down to what I hinted at last week and that's that us fans can be too keen sometimes to build up youngsters who, in reality, have produced very little to warrant all the expectation of them.
Also, and I think it's a classic modern day social media habit where a player has to be either a bad player or a top player, when, in reality again, the vast majority hover somewhere between mediocre/average and quite good - I suspect Dean is floating somewhere in that large pool of players.'"
You get young players coming through at Saints/Wigan/Leeds, and within a few games you can see something special there. There's a maturity in their play, an ability to take charge of the game and early on impose themselves on their SL peers.
When young players come through at Wire, before they have ever really performed in SL you get loads of hype and demands that we build the future around them. Then you get a rearguard of fans who cling to this narrative and just explain away the lack of performance. "He just needs more time.....Wigan or Saints would persevere with him.....the coach has messed him about.....the coach hates him" then inevitably they end up in the Championship with everyone saying they could have been a great but our rubbish coaching staff didn't develop them.
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"The problem is, the people who say go with Dean or Hayes, as they need to be given a chance, will be the same people who will want Powell gone after the 6 game trial period he's supposedly been set.
I'm not saying they shouldn't have a fair chance, but having a novice half back, at the time his job is supposedly on the line, just seems like career suicide for Powell.'"
They wouldn't be novices if Powell grew a pair and played one of em on a regular basis instead of chopping and changing
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| As we are unfortunately aware, there are games when Gigot looks world class.
Even at Catalans those games were few and far between. Even more so now. A huge no from me.
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| There are a lot more games where he's a sulking petulant terrible influence
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"They wouldn't be novices if Powell grew a pair and played one of em on a regular basis instead of chopping and changing'"
Or shoehorning Ratchford and Matautia into the halves instead.
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| Personally I wouldn't give Powell 6 games. For me he should have gone (sacked) after the Toulouse win.
But hey it's his team now & what a shambles he has put together. The Backs look all over the place (with square pegs trying to fill round holes) & most of the Forwards are on their way here, How will they react to the Powell regime?
I see another tough season ahead for the Team & the fans with an early change of Coach never the best idea but almost certain to happen based on the players we are likely to have available & Powells inability to get them fit enough or motivated enough to compete & hopefully win matches.
I will, however, be buying a season ticket & (once again) be hoping for the best. How far are we away from St Helens? 8 or 10 miles?
No, a million miles at least!!!
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| Isn't it becoming a bit tedious how the 'Powell Out' brigade seemingly manage to gatecrash every thread with their negative views??....
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Isn't it becoming a bit tedious how the 'Powell Out' brigade seemingly manage to gatecrash every thread with their negative views??....
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Only as tedious as how the 'Powell can do no wrong' brigade also chime in....
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| Quote ="Dita's Slot Meter"Isn't it becoming a bit tedious how the 'Powell Out' brigade seemingly manage to gatecrash every thread with their negative views??....
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I agree so let's move on from it on this thread.
As far as Gigot is concerned it's a NO from me whether you think he's a 'cheap punt' or not he doesn't tick any boxes at all IMO
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| Quote ="Mr Snoodle"Only as tedious as how the 'Powell can do no wrong' brigade also chime in....'"
Not quite the thread is about Tony Gigot
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| Quote ="WILLOWSTOURS"We need Williams at 6, and a 7 with a top kicking game.'"
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| Pleased I have "rattled a few cages" this fine Sunday morning by hijacking this pointless thread about Tony Gigot.
Shows just how desperate we have become.
Powell OUT!, His coaching team OUT! Holmes, Minikin & Mata'utia OUT! (Congrat's, however, to Peter on recent "Spirit" award)
There I've hijacked it again!
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| Quote ="magicman"Pleased I have "rattled a few cages" this fine Sunday morning by hijacking this pointless thread about Tony Gigot.
Shows just how desperate we have become.
Powell OUT!, His coaching team OUT! Holmes, Minikin & Mata'utia OUT! (Congrat's, however, to Peter on recent "Spirit" award)
There I've hijacked it again!'"
Above all…..KissKamOut!
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| Quote ="magicman"Pleased I have "rattled a few cages" this fine Sunday morning by hijacking this pointless thread about Tony Gigot.
Shows just how desperate we have become.
Powell OUT!, His coaching team OUT! Holmes, Minikin & Mata'utia OUT! (Congrat's, however, to Peter on recent "Spirit" award)
There I've hijacked it again!'"
I think you've probably rattled your own cage
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| Sorry everyone, this is probably the wrong thread again, but having rattled my own cage I’m now going back into it for a while!
Don’t blame me for how Pi**ed off I feel this morning, blame S**t Helen’s, 4 Winning GF’s in a row - is enough to make any Wires fan sick, sick, sick. I’m sick of them with - their fast running, tackling, passing, catching, kicking, fitness, skill set, professionalism & their continual influencing of the referee & their pushing of the rules to the absolute limit!
Why can’t we do it for a change?
Medication now taken & fortunately beginning to take effect.
Nurse! the screens please!!
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| Quote ="magicman"Sorry everyone, this is probably the wrong thread again, but having rattled my own cage I’m now going back into it for a while!
Don’t blame me for how Pi**ed off I feel this morning, blame S**t Helen’s, 4 Winning GF’s in a row - is enough to make any Wires fan sick, sick, sick. I’m sick of them with - their fast running, tackling, passing, catching, kicking, fitness, skill set, professionalism & their continual influencing of the referee & their pushing of the rules to the absolute limit!
Why can’t we do it for a change?
Medication now taken & fortunately beginning to take effect.
Nurse! the screens please!!'"
There's plenty that feel your pain and plenty of threads on what went wrong what will go wrong and how we might knock them off their perch.
Better than a cage IMO
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| Quote ="magicman"Pleased I have "rattled a few cages" this fine Sunday morning by hijacking this pointless thread about Tony Gigot.
Shows just how desperate we have become.
Powell OUT!, His coaching team OUT! Holmes, Minikin & Mata'utia OUT! (Congrat's, however, to Peter on recent "Spirit" award)
There I've hijacked it again!'"
Who are you again?
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| Wow, a post intended to open discussions and talk about rugby League in general has gone off the rails again
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| This thread should've been locked after the 1st post. Tony Gigot??? Good God!!
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| Quote ="Or thane"Wow, a post intended to open discussions and talk about rugby League in general has gone off the rails again
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to be fair, it was a pretty ropey op suggestion.
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| Tony Gigot! no no no! I'd rather bail Chris Sandow out of jail.
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| We are settled that Gigot isn’t the answer, but there are merits to his game that should be admired. Even way back when he was a Catalan player he took risks and made things happen, I think Dean could be a similar style player if allowed to play his natural game.
He’s unorthodox, which some coaches won’t like, but I think fans would. Lomax is similar in the way he runs at the line first and just see what happens.
It would be great to see him put in, but realistically the risk is too high, we need a fast start and a solid defender, so likely see a new 7 come in.
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