i just wonder what the pie eaters would be saying if it was ratchford making the same type of * tackle* on tompkins?

I actually like a bit of biff - RL is a contact sport, players can get a tad over excited (you have to remember most of them are as thick as pige), and moments like the Westwood assault and Hansen's tackle happen...Take that type of stuff out of the game and you end up with a pale shadow of the game most on here love.

For what its worth, I think Hansen's tackle did have a bit of malice in it, but, in my opinion, don't a lot of the big hits that we see, and love, in a game?.... Most players go into a tackle with the intent of making an impact on an opponent - Some overstep the mark (Westwood), some, whether they admit it or not, want to slow down an opponent and lessen his influence on the rest of a game (Hansen).

The one thing that can't be doubted is that Ratchford's injury was the final nail in Wire's coffin - They were already rocking from Monaghan's departure, but that incident totally blew any gameplan they had, out of the water.

As I started the topic that might give you a clue as to my opinion, my comment re Smith was to suggest he agreed with me! and for what it's worth in my opinion it was not intentional but it was dangerous, and should have been punished as should Westwoods! But to me it was a game changer

Initially, watching live, I felt Hansen was way out of order but watching it back on the big screen I felt it was borderline careless rather than deliberate and it was more bad luck, rather than intent, that Ratchford got injured.

Not making excuses, and didn't make any difference to the eventual winner of the game but the one incident in the game that really got my back up wasn't so much Hansens 'hit' on Ratchford, but Greens try. From memory I think it was the one that took them from 2 to 8 points in front. On two occasions before that try Warrington players had to go off/change shirts due to blood. Green scored whilst his face and shirt were covered in blood, by the standards that Silverwood had already set, Green should not have been involved in the play at that point of the game. (I appreciate the circumstances leading to the blood could be used to argue that we got what we deserved).

Smith agreed with you?



If you haven't noticed, RL is quite a dangerous game, there's a fine line between legal and illegal. The tackle was probably just on the legal side, hence why it wasn't punished.

Probably just on the legal side......as conclusive as that?

Probably just on the legal side......as conclusive as that?

Could say the same about Westwood on Green or several other tackles. It's all water under the bridge now, roll on the next meeting at OT eventually we will win it

Well said that man, someone in primrose & blue who can see it for what it really is, I hadn't seen it until tonight when the BBC highlights were shown (it was that controversial that sky cut it from their highlights last night???). It was a messy/clumsy tackle, first impact on the hip then Hansen seemed to grab out to gain grip and came up with fresh air, and gravity being what it is, with nothing to hold onto there was only one place he was going and that was down onto Ratchfords ankle....unfortunate, but unfortunate things happen in rugby, ask Monaghan about headbutting Pats hip.

sh[t happens

Yeah a punch to the face of a defenceless player might [ijust[/i be legal...







Think about what you're posting ffs.

Bennie was stupid to throw that punch so early in the game.

The injuries to two of our key players lost us the game, simple as. Carvell was also struggling with his arm. Once I saw Briers at full back, I knew our game was up.

It will be nice when you parasites jump back on your own site ffs.

Always makes me laugh when our fans start preaching about Hock being a liability etc but then make out like Westwood wouldn't say boo to a goose- he was very lucky to stay on the field. Every side needs one IMO.

Punch to the eye is different to trying to gouge out the eye would you say

Why on earth would we want to do that, it's all milk & roses on our board, much more fun over here watching you lot gnashing your teeth, wringing your hands. writhing about in a cess pit of your own making

Absolutely, we saw the light & got rid sharpish.......... the good Dr Qashqai's problem now....a leopard never changes it's spots (ever!)

Tit

Didn't Jeff Lima get banned for this sort if tackle, it was his speciality

Jeff had many problems .... he failed to achieve a double which was a particular bug bear with me .... its for reasons like that we had to get rid of him !

No, Lima got banned for a cannonball tackle.

they changedthe rules mid season because of how much of house Lima was. funnily enough Wigan fans were defending him at the time as well.

just watching the game again, the tackle just happened, if this had been on a kicker on his non kicking leg, it'd be a straight red.

it's a cannonball tackle with no control on a man that's being controlled by a defender.

I'd agree completely had he actually tackled his leg and not his hip.....

It was a hell of a shot by Westwood to connect like that when he wasn't even looking at where he was punching. Right on the money.

A tough sport which can be brutal, Morley apparently played with a fractured cheekbone in the grand final and Joel Monaghan now needs plastic surgery on his ear.