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| Clark had a massive increase in his contract to keep him out of the NRL.....who thinks it was a token gesture? Who thinks it was a modest bung? Who thinks it was a hike and half to ward off all avenues?
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| Well how about that...
It seems RD isn't such the serial liar after all.
Latest out of the club say Wire did everything from taking him around Padgate campus to offering him more money than Saints...
It's no surprise I was told he was a Wire after going along to Padgate.
Pretty much getting a penalty and hitting the crossbar...let's see how far off I am with the centre!!!!
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| Wolves had concerns over Barba's character. This from a team and a coach that sanctioned the signing of Chris Sandow and Ryan Bailey. What utter, utter nonsense.
[urlhttp://www.warringtonguardian.co.uk/sport/wolves/15309292.Wolves_had__concerns_over_character__of_new_Saints_signing_Barba/[/url
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| Yeah that's utter .
It's not like they got all the way to signing and then checked his nightclub references.
We ultimately lost out to saints despite offering what sounds like a lot more money. Either he's been put off by the coaching staff or wanted to work with Holbrook again. Either way it's disappointing.
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| Embarrassing from us....almost as cringey as Duckie's woeful digging. We lost out....thought we had a bit more class than to publicly and uncouthly talk about money and the man's character. Also if barba turned down more cash for professional and personal reasons then that's a sign of decent character. We're losing the plot on and off the field at the minute.
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| that article is an absolute Shocker we should be absolutely ashamed.
I dont Know who the Club source is but they should be sacked.
If we lost out, we lost out, just have the good grace to say so and wish him well.
the whole rugby League world knew about Ben Barba and his Cocaine bust, most knew of his alcohol and gambling problems and some will have known about his alleged assault. Anyone looking to pay a huge amount of money for him will have known all of this.
its like wanting to buy a burnt out car and offering daft money and then when someone else buys it instead of you you say I didnt want it anyway it was burnt....
I'm not disappointed we have missed out on Barba but I am absolutely gutted at this shocking story.
they stated that he signed because he was coached by Holbrook before ?? When was this? Holbrook has never been a first team coach before and he coached the reserve side at the Bulldogs when Barba played in the under 20's.
Why the hell didnt we get Kevin Sinfield then? he really was coached by Tony Smith once.....
utterly pathetic and a really worrying sign that we are heading for a level of professionalism of an early Marwan Koukash style.
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| Good work fitzpatrick.....as idiotic as he was on the field
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Well how about that...
It seems RD isn't such the serial liar after all.
Latest out of the club say Wire did everything from taking him around Padgate campus to offering him more money than Saints...
It's no surprise I was told he was a Wire after going along to Padgate.
Pretty much getting a penalty and hitting the crossbar...let's see how far off I am with the centre!!!!'"
Chris Waddle...............
sorry RD I just chuckled to myself at that....
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| It sounds to me our club was convinced he would sign.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"Chris Waddle...............
sorry RD I just chuckled to myself at that....'"
Chris and Glenn. They went half bad you know. Diamond Lights.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Embarrassing from us....almost as cringey as Duckie's woeful digging. We lost out....thought we had a bit more class than to publicly and uncouthly talk about money and the man's character. Also if barba turned down more cash for professional and personal reasons then that's a sign of decent character. We're losing the plot on and off the field at the minute.'"
It does seem a very bitter statement doesn't it. I could understand that in a heat of the moment interview, but to put a release out like that is strange. As you said, turning down extra money doesn't really jump out as the go to thing for a guy with a questionable character. As a couple of people have hinted, it seems Barba has made some very positive noises, to the point where someone at Warrington now feels very let down on a personal level, hence the tone of the statement.
All in, I think Holbrook has had a big input into his decision. He seems to know Ben pretty well and sounds like he trusts him too, so perhaps it's reciprocated. I'd say that was the biggest single reason for him choosing Saints. We are also a club with a long standing reputation in Australia too. We've were successful for a long period of time and are still very well connected with the likes of Meninga and Daniel Anderson often consulted. If you asked an Aussie to name the big English sides, unfortunately it would be 1)Wigan, 2)Leeds 3)St Helens.
Are there any rumours who this centre is? I'm very intrigued by that. I had Kyle Eastmond down for that, but it seems it's not him.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"...let's see how far off I am with the centre!!!!'"
Any idiot with half-an-ounce of common sense could tell you we're going to sign a centre. So instead of stating the obvious, name the player you think we're going to sign. It's not like you've made a monkeys-ass out of yourself already with your named predictions. What could possibly go wrong
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| Threads like this remind me why I don't look on here very often now. Does anyone not think that Guardian article might have an element of fabrication and embellishment? Why would any 'source' make those comments?
It even had me fooled that it was an official press release. Poor journalism.
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| Quote ="Paul2812"Any idiot with half-an-ounce of common sense could tell you we're going to sign a centre. So instead of stating the obvious, name the player you think we're going to sign. It's not like you've made a monkeys-ass out of yourself already with your named predictions. What could possibly go wrong
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You pointed out I said "with the centre" not 'a centre'.
For a monkeys-ass, with my primate intelligence, even I can understand those are two very different statements.
So perhaps an idiot with half-an-ounce of common sense would say that.
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| Quote ="Wirefan"Yeah that's utter rubbish.
It's not like they got all the way to signing and then checked his nightclub references.
We ultimately lost out to saints despite offering what sounds like a lot more money. Either he's been put off by the coaching staff or wanted to work with Holbrook again. Either way it's disappointing.'"
Agree. If you had no allegiance but wanted a fair chance of winning a GF in your 2 years in the UK - who would you sign for?
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| Guardian article "source" is clearly very bitter, must have thought it was a "done deal"... that'll teach them to believe internet rumours.
I suspect the fact that Barba and Holbrook have the same agent was highly significant in his choice.
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| Barba deal done & dusted & the playground slanging is getting embarrassing . Lock it mods !
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| Classic RD this.
I had decided to stay away until we have a new coach, but so glad i logged back on for this one.
Tremendous stuff.
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| i think we would have had a better chance of signing ali barba as we have some of his thieves (stealing a wage) playing week in week out.
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| Quote ="grifter"i think we would have had a better chance of signing ali barba'"
Quote ="grifter" as we have some of his thieves (stealing a wage) playing week in week out.
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I don't think you've got 40 thieves though despite the doom and gloom on here
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"
I had decided to stay away until we have a new coach'"
Don't do that. You'll be waiting a long time I feel...
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"Classic RD this.
I had decided to stay away until we have a new coach, but so glad i logged back on for this one.
Tremendous stuff.'"
That's a shame, I hadn't noticed.
Do let me know next time, but welcome back.
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| There have been numerous RD exclusives over the years. This is the funniest. Zero correct, about 28 incorrect
Regards
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