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| I really don't understand what the problem is? We thought player signings were done for 2016 or at least thats what we were told. Signing a prop as an extra that can fill in for dodds while he's away injured can't be all that bad. Let's look at it as a positive it's only a year and if he plays well, its a bonus.
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| I am totally baffled by this; the final nail in the coffin of any 'culture' which Smith built in his early years. We have become a club which signs any spare parts going cheap with no overarching strategy whatsoever.
The feedback on this has been almost entirely negative, bar the usual suspects who will NEVER say a bad word about the club. Meanwhile, the self declared 'Wire Fan Club' spent the morning making a 'welcome to Warrington, Ryan' video on YouTube. The mind boggles...
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| A year's deal is optimistic. I would be very surprised if he stays 6 months. I really cannot understand this signing. He wasn't deemed good enough for Cas and HR but somehow he is suitable for us? Bizarre.
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| God forbid , we sign players who've actually won the grand final !!
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| The problem isn't that it is Ryan Bailey pantomime s-house, the problem is like GO says above.
What is the strategy, what's the plan?
We just seem to be picking up other teams scraps and misfits, there seems no direction with signings, we currently have the Wakefield strategy.
Bailey is also completely against the spirit TS seems to like throwing out as to reasons players leave.
Gleeson, Wood, Higham etc
This smacks of desperation, zero planning, zero direction and I'm sorry but for me this is Smith gambling with his career and if we don't make the GF I'm sorry he's got to go.
And this pathetic argument about his medals?
Remember you can't have 17 stars in a team, you have to pad it out with average...step up Mr Bailey, and that was at his peak.
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| Quote ="Cutter76"God forbid , we sign players who've actually won the grand final !!'"
Many mediocre players win finals, whilst there are genuine stars who go through their career without winning a thing; ie Garry Schofield et al.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Couldn't be more wrong about the incident. He does exactly what people complain he doesn't do and steps up and delivers a big hit on Saints' biggest guy in Fa'asavlau who gets sat on his backside and knocked out. Graham wets his pants incorrectly thinking it was with the elbow when it was actually with the shoulder. Next chance Bailey has he actually does that "Benny Hill" run sideways so he can go towards Graham, had he ran straight Graham would've been two defenders to the left away. Only time Graham got him is when two defenders held him up and Graham ran in third man and smashed into his ribs. Bailey just popped right back up as if nothing happened.'"
....and in other news, fairies are found at the bottom of gardens
the tooth fairy now gives £20 notes away
and Jack really did climb up a beanstalk
Are you available for a new series of Jackanory?
Bailey bricked it
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| Quote ="Cutter76"God forbid , we sign players who've actually won the grand final !!'"
Really, really, that's as good as it gets? Left Leeds, abandoned HKR and Cas not interested. Putting everything else aside does that not outweigh "won the grand final"?
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| ''Ryan ****ing Bailey.
My initial thoughts were the same as Lefty's.
He's a coward who picks on small guys with cheap shots.
In his 'prime' he was a half decent player - more due to his size and nastiness than anything else.
Well we've got props now - quantity not quality in my view. And Tony has taken leave of his senses.....
BUT reading the article in the Guardian it seems that there is a bond between Bailey and Smith, and I can only hope (against hope) that it works.
If he puts in a decent shift and steps up to the mark then fair play to the guy.
The Cox signing is really strange for me - we have plenty of props with his level of experience and I don't know what he really brings. (unless it's to the U23's).
This and Bailey...... A big call (even if not a financial one).
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Quote ="lefty goldblatt"....and in other news, fairies are found at the bottom of gardens
the tooth fairy now gives £20 notes away
and Jack really did climb up a beanstalk
Are you available for a new series of Jackanory?
Bailey bricked it'"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-et6E8ptg
Problem is mate it's on video.
5:55 in he runs the ball sideways to get towards Graham and gets driven back by another defender because he was aiming towards Graham. It's quite clearly there in the clip.
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Quote ="lefty goldblatt"....and in other news, fairies are found at the bottom of gardens
the tooth fairy now gives £20 notes away
and Jack really did climb up a beanstalk
Are you available for a new series of Jackanory?
Bailey bricked it'"
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=A7-et6E8ptg
Problem is mate it's on video.
5:55 in he runs the ball sideways to get towards Graham and gets driven back by another defender because he was aiming towards Graham. It's quite clearly there in the clip.
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| Quote ="Cutter76"God forbid , we sign players who've actually won the grand final !!'"
Some Warrington fans clearly prefer their forwards to sneakily punch Wigan HB's in the face in their Grand Finals. An act even Bailey hasn't been so stupid to do and risk his team's chances had the ref spotted it.
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| I think were up to 6 In the for camp.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Some Warrington fans clearly prefer their forwards to sneakily punch Wigan HB's in the face in their Grand Finals. An act even Bailey hasn't been so stupid to do and risk his team's chances had the ref spotted it.'"
In terms of house tactics, we're in credit against Wigan.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Couldn't be more wrong about the incident. He does exactly what people complain he doesn't do and steps up and delivers a big hit on Saints' biggest guy in Fa'asavlau who gets sat on his backside and knocked out. Graham wets his pants incorrectly thinking it was with the elbow when it was actually with the shoulder. Next chance Bailey has he actually does that "Benny Hill" run sideways so he can go towards Graham, had he ran straight Graham would've been two defenders to the left away. Only time Graham got him is when two defenders held him up and Graham ran in third man and smashed into his ribs. Bailey just popped right back up as if nothing happened.'"
that's how i always remember that incident . actually one of the few times i remember Bailey really not taking a backward step and that was a big play off game at knowsley road too.Think people remember it different have been hoodwinked by Grahams ranting and chest beating in this instance.
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| OKAY. Have it your way, from a heavily edited 5 minute video.
I can still recall, 5 of us discussing that incident and all that followed, the following day. All five of us agreed that Bailey went on walkabout, straight after said incident, and did ANYTHING possible to avoid Graham (and others).
I have NO issue in Bailey coming in with the shoulder. As many on here will testify, I am a HUGE fan of the shoulder charge. How else would Les Davidson make a living? I'm sorry it's been banned out of the sport.
What I do have an issue with, is Bailey giving it Mr Billy Big Spuds, and then not backing it up/hiding behind players/picking on midgets.
We all know what he's like
The swear filter blocks it, though
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https://youtu.be/iN_c0f86d2o
Here's another classic example of Bailey, throw a couple of sly punches, back peddle like fook, then plenty of pointing as the rest of rhinos run in
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Here's another classic example of Bailey, throw a couple of sly punches, back peddle like fook, then plenty of pointing as the rest of rhinos run in
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"https://youtu.be/iN_c0f86d2o
Here's another classic example of Bailey, throw a couple of sly punches, back peddle like fook, then plenty of pointing as the rest of rhinos run in'"
I'm sure if we trawled YouTube, we could find umpteen identical incidents, with the same protagonist.
All with the same result. Bailey retreating behind his mates, pointing a lot. then disappearing for the next few minutes.
I'll need a Dettol bath, every time I see this twunt in a Wire jersey.
Yes, we may have had players in our ranks in my time of watching, who opposition fans may take issue with (Rathbone, Westwood, Cullen, even the Beatified Mike Gregory had a nasty streak a mile wide times), but they all stood up to be counted. Nay not so, with Bailey
APPALLED by the whole shabby affair.
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| At least , the forum has come alive again , loving the meltdown
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| Quote ="Biff Tannen"that's how i always remember that incident . actually one of the few times i remember Bailey really not taking a backward step and that was a big play off game at knowsley road too.Think people remember it different have been hoodwinked by Grahams ranting and chest beating in this instance.'"
Exactly, Graham did a good job of making it look like he was going to kill Bailey but didn't do naff all apart from a cheap late hit 3rd man in in the 79th minute. I remember the GF later that year with 30 secs left and the game lost, Graham went hunting for a cheap shot on Bailey but I suppose that was ok.
Even though the video shows him stepping up and knocking a Saints prop on his backside and out cold he still apparently only targets "little guys" and even when it shows him running sideways to get towards Graham just a minute later the revisionist tale has it as him running away from Graham.
When he gets subbed of its obviously not because he was due to go off around that time anyway or because the Leeds' coach was worried about a yellow or red card coming out with things firing up, it was obviously because Bailey begged to come off. The Warrington fan above clearly asked McClennen his reasoning for taking Bailey off to tell us all.
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| Come on Yed, do your stuff, and organise a poll
Ryan Bailey
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"https://youtu.be/iN_c0f86d2o
Here's another classic example of Bailey, throw a couple of sly punches, back peddle like fook, then plenty of pointing as the rest of rhinos run in'"
So Bailey gets into a fight with a forward (even though he only picks on small guys alledgely) and two other Wire guys jump in and throw stuff and Bailey's the coward. People really do see what they want when it comes to him.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Come on Yed, do your stuff, and organise a poll
Ryan Bailey
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Does that need a poll?
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"So Bailey gets into a fight with a forward (even though he only picks on small guys alledgely) and two other Wire guys jump in and throw stuff and Bailey's the coward. People really do see what they want when it comes to him.'"
No. You really are the one who sees what he wants.
Bailey doesn't get into a fight. HE STARTS A FIGHT (in a situation where the object of his "aggression" isn't in a position to get a proper blow in, as Pooh House Bailey has blocked him in the scrum). As soon as Rauhihi is able to land a punch, lo and behold, old Ryan is back pedalling, and seconds later, is completely out of camera shot. The camera doesn't lie.
Yes. People really do see what they want to see.
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| Quote ="ThePrinter"Popular fantasy amongst opposition fans that they had a player give Bailey what for when in reality it never happened. '"
It's not really fantasy when it actually did happen.
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| Quote ="Cutter76"At least , the forum has come alive again , loving the meltdown'"
At last something we agree on.
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