Nay, Mr Wilkes

Spot on. Granted it was an improvement on the past five weeks but some of our fans on here think you should get trophies for just competing nowadays.

Cheer up LTS ... please. There has to something you like at Wire or in life in general? Perhaps rugby is not your sport.

I do enjoy winding you up to be fair.

I thought you might? You have annoyed a few recently.
Have you ever played the wonderful game or jumped into a bath with 30 odd muddy blokes (mind you that is a different question.) Just answer the first one.

I'd believe that a lot more if it wasn't so obvious that you are the one getting wound up by the team's performances (or lack of)...

Oh no not the have you ever played the game card? I know plenty of ex players/pros/coaches and a fair few talk utter garbage about the game. I know a well respected scout (who also played to a decent level) he still prattles on about how Sam Tomkins is rubbish and always was. Luckily he’s not the scout for Warrington.

...and you ratti ... did you play, coach or ref.
It does help honestly. You would just not be so critical.

All 3. You mouth?

Sorry ratti ... don't understand "You mouth".

I always love it when someone comes out with the garbage, ‘have you ever played the game?’. It’s almost like you’re not allowed an opinion on something unless you’ve done it yourself. Incidentally, Daniel Anderson - never played the game - came over here and won the treble.

I'm guessing you have not. Of course you can have an opinion but to be so negative for many years when you've never played is a bit odd really & unfair on those you throw mud at.

I've played it. Not professionally but to the point I had trials for the town. And I think we're a load of sheeit.

I'm well past the point of being happy with what we get cause it's 'better' than where we were in 2002. I'm sick to the back teeth of the predictability of our seasons, of how things are gonna go when we play a team we should absolutely cane and end up embarassed. But getting up for it enough to challenge the top sides now and then. Watching us spiral and hoping we scrape into the playoffs, just to watch us crash out at the first hurdle.

I'm sick of being soft bellied and weak when it comes down to it. I want us to be ruthless. I want us to smack the ever loving crap out of a youngster from another team and make him think twice about continuing the ball up. Why aren't we hungry to win like Percival at Saints? He's a bell but he'll die for the cause. As I said there is only Ashton, Walker, Thewlis and Bullock right now doing that. Holroyd could join them, he has potential.

But until 1-26 are on the same page, we won't win anything. It really says something when the best aggression I see in our wh9le team (that stays on the right side of the line) comes from Ben bloody Currie.

I played, decent level, not pro.

Last season was crap.
Losing against 12 men for 75 mins was crap
vs Cas was crap
1st half vs Leeds was crap
Playing well at home and losing is crap.

First 7 games were decent
Comeback VS Salford was delightful
First loss to Saints was digestible
First loss to Wigan was also digestible

I've never been an actor but I know a crap film when I watch it...I've played rugby back in the 80s at no great level but again I know crap when I see it...we all know crap when we see it and we are seeing it now...it's up to the clueless hierarchy to sort this mess out...

In what way is Percival a bellend ?

He plays for St Helens ergo......that and the fact he looks like he definitely wears shellsuits, lingers around fruit machines and offers cut priced meats in public houses near closing time. Saying that he is one of the least hateful of the St Helens bunch, that's not saying much though.

There have to be some of them you like? Louie? He's a top guy. Surely you can't have anything against Roby or Lomax?

LMS

The less said about him the better!

No problems with Roby, SLs best ever player and a class act. Lomax, however, has decided to use the forename Jonny and has a face you’d repeatedly want to introduce to half a house brick.

Saints players who I wouldn't happily throw into pit full of dogs in a manner reminiscent of Ernest Borgnine in The Vikings?

Hmm. Tricky. Goes against the grain a bit doesn't it? That Batchelor doesn't seem to have veered into Idiot Country USA just yet, and is quite handy too.

Actually no, I hate him as well.

I remember LMS actually going up to Warrington players after a close defeat and laughing in their faces. He has zero class, like some of his obnoxious fans.

Whilst we are discussing the fans : The concept of being gracious in victory is lost on some of them. My only conciliation is knowing that after the game they have to go back to their grief hole sink estate housing and return to their dismal lives.

Wow, this has descended into some nasty stuff. "Hating" players...?

Well speaking personally only [ihating[/i Saints players means I must have mellowed. Back in the 80s and 90s, my feelings towards them went some way past hate into borderline-psychosis levels of contempt.

Wigan too. A Locker Cup defeat was sufficient to make my dear old mother lock up the cutlery for a week.