That is true, the Langer signing could have gone either way but his performances here were sensational, though I think the guy was ultra professional and wasn't going to tarnish his reputation by coasting through a final payday.

Sadly, despite his brilliance we won nothing. Same with Jiffy. Inglis might be amazing, indifferent or a somewhere in-between but his signing alone won't propel us to GF glory, we need more than Hollywood signings we need a rethink and a change in direction.

Jiffy took us to within a whisker of the title, and that was against a Wigan side that was well ahead of us in every other area.
When Langer was here, our team was largely crap, we had two good halves and some pace in the outside backs but that was it.

Put either of those players in the Wire team in 2021 and I would fancy us to be strong contenders, because the teams at the top are not so far ahead these days, and they lack that calibre of inspirational player themselves. There's a lot more scope for a player having a genuinely great MoS style season, being a difference maker who could take us to a Grand Final.

That sort of signing is not going to give us long term success but I'd take a Grand Final win if we can get one, I wouldn't rule out the possibility (maybe 10 to 15 per cent), that Inglis comes over here and is a player in a different league to the rest of the competition.

On Langer specifically, I think if Steve Price had that type of player he could win the title with him. Price can make a team be tough and compete and battle hard in defence, we've just lacked imagination and the ability to break defences when we are in the opposition half. Langer had multiple ways to break a defence and even in our crap side of 2000 he had us scoring a shedload of tries.

Widdop to Wests Tigers is a done deal I believe.

Makes sense since Hull have signed Reynolds from there, also I see the Giants have signed a young half from Canterbury. Does that mean Sezar may be available.

No he's been signed to partner Sezer, Huddersfield won't let him go :'l

Well for the love of God I really hope Patton is not the contingency plan.

Tigers have said Widdop isn't even on their radar, and i believe that as Adam Douhei will nore than likely partner Brooks next year and will look to develop him. From the looks of it unless we pay his contrct off i think Widdop will be here next year.

Listening to various recent comments you can only imagine that Widdop is hawking himself around the NRL possibly reducing his demands as he goes. I just can't see him coming back and lasting a full season.

Ratch to 6
GI to 1
Ricky Luetele to 3

GI to centre and Ashton to Fullback for me, Solves the where do we play Ashton problem. Luetele would be an awesome signing though but i think he's not needed to be honest with Mamo, King, GI and Brand on the books. Another forward would be nice but i'm not sure who. Mitch Clark as a filler would be a step up from Latu and Sita and won't cost a bomb.

Where’s GI playing?

How about

Ratch to 6
Luke Thompson on marquee

"We still believe a deal is possible, but we're fully prepared for no deal"

That's mitch clark whos made 9 appearances for wigan this year, thst wigan fans all with rid of and has been told he can leave 12 months into his contract?

KF has been to see the Widdop family for negotiations, in his role as Michel Barnier, to make him stay at the HJ.

He's come back with a 34 year old prop with no knees, a Rolf Harris CD, and 4 pack of Castlemaine XXXX.

Ah well

That has to go down as his most successful negotiation to date.

A lazy effort from LG, as his form teacher I know he can do so much better C-

Yeah still more Games than Latu and Sita hence the step up comment, and as i stated a squad filler. Better than Latu and Sita so i stand by my comment.
He wouldn't cost much and wouldn't take a Quota spot, and seeing as there are pretty much no quality props running around off contract we could do worse.

Wigan s version of Latu.

He's bang average, he's not wigan quality, it was bizarre that they signed him, he's been crap there, there's talk elsewhere on this board about the club making bad decisions, this would be an awful signing for us and more ammo for the KF haters.

I realise in the current climate its not possible but i'd be putting a fat sack of cash down for matty english at huddersfield.

Yeah but again why would they let him go when he's one of the better forwards they have, they won't just let him go. Looking around there's nobody about Propwise we could realistically pick up, Kibula has a long way to go, Latu is awful and Price clearly doesn't want to play Sita so potentially we're 3 forwards down. 4 if the rumours of Luis Johson being shopped around are true. Unless Doro gets more game time and robson we're still light in the forwards.
Although running with Hill, Cooper, Philbin and now Butler we're looking better in the forwards for next year, but i still think we lack the depth.
Really scratching my head as to what forward we could bring in....if we even have cap space that is?
Mitch Clark, Sam Moa, Remi casty are Available, Clark being the cheapest really. Ukuma Ta'ai is off contract and if he is over his injury and can get fit he would be a good option as an impact Prop for a year. But unless we can entice a forward from another club, we'll be running with Latu, Sita and Kibula as back up props, Doesn't bode well really

We could do worse...like not signing a prop, so our only successful halfback during the SP era could help SL’s highest paid unsuccessful halfback achieve something.
Only saying... Packs wins games.

Reicon_razz.gifrops. Get on the phone to Leeds and find out where they scout props cos they seem to find and produce them no problem and while we're at it get Sinfield in on a 6 month conditioning contract to work with Akuola, Latu and Kibula.

Bloke has expended more energy lacing up his trainers every day in the last week than that lot did all last season.

Crosby and Wellington Albert. Plus Merrin on marquee went home after one year and the South Sea islander with the long name Ava S****************************** is supposedly not coming back from Aus either.

They are linked with Luis Johnson though.

Do they? How come theyve signed bodene thompson as a 'middle' ?

Leeds have struggled to replace peacock since his retirement, singleton was an ok bench prop, they've kept on with cuthbertson way past his best, garbutt was good but injured a lot, they brought Merrin over, an international backrow and played him at prop.

Theyve done alright with prior this year buy he's a workhorse tackler more than a go forward prop.


As I've said a few weeks back, prop/middle is a massive recruitment struggle for all teams

So, what is a middle a new term for ? Can someone please run that by me ?