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| Quote ="The Railwayman"I get what you are saying Duckie but second rowers, well the ones we have excluding Currie perhaps, do not have the skill set of what you refer to as the historical role of the stand off.
'your day' ..... Well in 'my' day you had an overall organising halfback and a halfback who had a more free role. They still by and large could play either side of the ruck. I still think you need an overall general and neither Austin or Ratchford for me fit that role.
And as an old fart can you enlighten me on what TRM is.'"
TRM = The Railway Man?
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| Quote ="matt_wire"TRM = The Railway Man?'"
Teresa May????
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| Quote ="matt_wire"TRM = The Railway Man?'"
That's it MW
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Think by the quietness of this thread, Dec is sitting well with us?'"
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| We're going to be in the playoffs, probably finishing 2nd. Hopefully Brown is fit with a few games under his belt by then.
And then we've got Widdop.
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| Put ratchford at half back and ANYONE else at fullback. Ratchford has some ability as an open field/off the cuff runner. But as a last line of defence he is probably the worst in super league.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Put ratchford at half back and ANYONE else at fullback. Ratchford has some ability as an open field/off the cuff runner. But as a last line of defence he is probably the worst in super league.'"
So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?
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Quote ="rubber duckie"So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?'"
Rugby league positions - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league_positions
A rugby league team consists of thirteen players on the field, with four substitutes on the bench. ... article: Fullback (rugby league). Numbered 1, the fullback's primary role is the last line of defence, standing behind the main line of defenders.
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Rugby league positions - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league_positions
A rugby league team consists of thirteen players on the field, with four substitutes on the bench. ... article: Fullback (rugby league). Numbered 1, the fullback's primary role is the last line of defence, standing behind the main line of defenders.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?'"
Thank you for confirming to everyone that you are an idiot!
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| Not the first time you've been personal, but have a nice Easter.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Not the first time you've been personal, but have a nice Easter.'"
Just facts. I'd rather have Lachlan Coote than Ben Barba.
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| Dec Patton is garbage, everyone(except the duckie)including Steve price knows this. Unfortunately he is under contract til the end of NEXT year due to his performances as a bench hooker last season. Which begs the question why we went out and signed another bang average bench hooker? Lets be honest, if Danny Walker wasnt a warrington lad we wouldn't have gone anywhere near him.
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| It's difficult watching Patton play, almost cheer when he's passed the ball without messing up the play
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| So our 3rd choice halfback isn’t star material, the “points for” column indicates he must be doing something right. Or is it the view that we are effectively playing games with 12 men?
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"So our 3rd choice halfback isn’t star material, the “points for” column indicates he must be doing something right. Or is it the view that we are effectively playing games with 12 men?'"
It’s the single biggest weakness in the squad, nothing that we all don’t know
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| On the other hand ,he didn't single handedly let in 70 plus points against Saints & Salford.
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| Quote ="ninearches"On the other hand ,he didn't single handedly let in 70 plus points against Saints & Salford.'"
Of course not. The whole side were poor then, but that doesn't mean he isn't one of the weakest halfbacks in SL. He must be pinching himself to make sure he is not dreaming he has a starting role with a side aiming to be the best in the league. He's very luck we havent managed to find a replacement to deregister Brown.
For those who are happy with Patton as our first choice halfback I would like you to list one area of the halfback role in which he excels.
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| Quote ="Wires71"
For those who are happy with Patton as our first choice halfback I would like you to list one area of the halfback role in which he excels.'"
Leading the victory song.
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| If Patton wasn't a Warrington lad, He'd of been hounded out the club... by far our weakest link
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"If Patton wasn't a Warrington lad, He'd of been hounded out the club... by far our weakest link'"
It's like the situation with Riley who benefited from being a Warrington lad. After his contract expired I don't think he could hold down a pro RL contract at any level. When Patton leaves us it will be the way of Widnes or below.
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| Yes,for whatever reason, our locally grown talent seems to have a glass ceiling.
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| Which bit of “3rd choice halfback” is difficult to understand? We have Austin now and Widdop to join next season. What player is going to sign for half a season knowing they will be back up next year no matter how they play. It’s like real life doesn’t play any part in some supporters lives.
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| Wow now we are saying that players get preferential treatment because they are local lads....its like when Republicans complained that America only voted for Obama because he was black.
Usually we hear people say on here that the club doesn't give local lads a chance!
Is this bias just something that has come in under Steve Price, or was Tony Smith also unfairly promoting young home grown talent at the expense of the old guard?
As for Riley he scored 100 odd tries.
Yeah yeah I know, he was playing outside Atkins, anyone could have scored 100 tries off all the chances Atkins creates for his winger.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Wow now we are saying that players get preferential treatment because they are local lads....its like when Republicans complained that America only voted for Obama because he was black.
Usually we hear people say on here that the club doesn't give local lads a chance!
Is this bias just something that has come in under Steve Price, or was Tony Smith also unfairly promoting young home grown talent at the expense of the old guard?
As for Riley he scored 100 odd tries.
Yeah yeah I know, he was playing outside Atkins, anyone could have scored 100 tries off all the chances Atkins creates for his winger.'"
So you rated Riley? How would you explain his exodus when he left us. Surely a centenary try scorer would have offers from a number of SL clubs?
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