Well I don't know much about the bloke but I'll reserve opinion until I see him, and frankly he can't be any worse than anyone else around him at the moment.

However, I do wonder who people expected us to bring in. We've lost virtually all our centres, Hughes at centre has been apalling, Ratchford is wasted there. So what do you want?

The days of Bateman, Jamie Lyon, Davies, Phil Blake, Kevin Iro are gone, the game doesn't produce them anymore and those that do merit comparison are earning a fortune in Aus.

The best centre in the game at the moment is Shenton and he was a total failure at Saints. He looks great now but he's in a team overflowing with confidence. If we'd signed him when he left Saints you'd have all screamed saints reject.

Next year will have to wait, right now we need bodies and I repeat, if he's bad as some say then he's going to look right at home in this team.

If they had an Olympics for trolls Charlie you'd win the gold medal in a canter.

Rumoured you're 4 points adrift of the top 8 with only 10 points available to you

(yawns)

Plenty of points there to turn it around then

Charlie isn't a troll. In fact I think a few on here could do with a bit of what Charlie is drinking, the negativity is getting beyond reasonable, people were more upbeat during the blitz.

On a positive note, Huddersfield just won . . .

This is like the kind of thing they have on NFL films, the narrator would say the above with dramatic music building and then coming to a crescendo as they'd show a clip of him racing past the Wigan defence, with the commentator going "Pomeroy is away...they won't stop him now....40...30...20...10...touchdown Warrington"

The standard of humour in rugby league is priceless.

There is a Wigan player called Nick Gregson but I think he should change it to Nick Greggson

Balls to it. Fresh body, has none of this year's negativity attached to him. Who knows, maybe fresh meat is the catalyst we need. I'm refusing to accept we're done yet.

I must say that i am living on a knife edge, not been as excited for a long time. Do i or don't i bother renewing my season ticket ?

It's lucky we signed these two players now....it means they have yet to have the skill coached out of then by Agar, so hopefully they look good to us....they be useless next season though! [Whistles

Word on the grapevine is you & St Helens are in for Harrison Hansen.

Free agent at the end of this year.

So youve finally got Agar sussed !!!! Well done you.....and not a moment too soon.

Only took us 3 years, but then it took 5 years to recover from from the malaise running through our club.

They were dark days.

Jesus is it ever going to end, what are we becoming, a care home for the elderly, i can live with bring props in over 30, any would rather have Harrison Ford.

Somebody had to take the role on after we gave it up...

Cannot be any worse. They are here to do a job and god I hope they do. At least we'll have a centre playing centre.

Hudds and Wigan will take 2 points off one or the other next week.
If we can topple Cats at home, we're 2 points off the 8.
In the coming weeks after we will play Wigan. It's not a knockout game so maybe we can win.
We also play Widnes, Leigh and Wakefield during that time. We can win those. Maybe not Wakie.
Wigan have Hudds, Us, Widnes, Catalans and Leeds.
Hudds have Wigan, Salford, Widnes, Leigh and Hull FC.

Wigan are playing weak and have slipped down the table. And with the millions in the gym, maybe they could slip further.
Hudds have had a resurgence, but who knows how long it'll last.
We're terrible. But we'll have fresh legs, coming in with their own ideas on how to get things done, which can't be worse than the ideas we currently have.
I think we have the slightly easier run in. I think we will find a way. Ludicrious, I know. But I still have the faith. Luckily we still have the effort to succeed, even when talent deserts us. if we can do what we did when we went on that 6 week win run, grinding it out and finding a way to hang on, then we'lll slip in to safety.

I hope you are right. But it's not looking good. With the points difference as it is both Hudds and Wigan only need to win 3 of their 5 to ensure Top 8, assuming we win all of ours. If Catalans match us over the 5 we are doomed to the bottom 4.

Certainly not impossible to make the 8 if we start picking up some wins but I do think it will take a small miracle to pull it off

Need to pick themselves up from this defeat for cats game or there is no chance of top 8. Next game one of the biggest of our season yet

Rumours are a killer & i am surprised the club hasn't stepped into clarify the situation. We hear rumours of dressing room discontent but we don't know if the guys in the white hats are the players or the coaches or even a mixture of both. The main villains of the piece at the moment seem to be the board of directors for not protecting the club as a business with a statement.

Yeah lose that one and its curtains

But if we lose will anything change within the club? My guess would be an opportunity from the board for Smith to bring us back up from the Championship (should the worst happen), or another year to show an improvement and finish above 9th (most likely mid-table).

It's a depressing state of affairs but that's the way it is. We should brace ourselves for another long spell of mediocrity in front of crowds well below 10,000.

Expect a wolves press release confirming Hiku then?

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Hiku and Naiqama Signed. Both available to come over this season pending Visa clearance.