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| I don't think he looked dis-interested at all, he always tries his hardest and I want him to do well due to him being so enthusiastic but last night his 2 errors could have cost us the game. Whether I would drop him next week is a tough one, because I think if you drop him for one game then he won't play again this season because his confidence will go down...
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| Quote ="Coops"=#FF4000He was lucky to get away with the error when Farrell's try was ruled out could have made a massive difference if it had been given.
Get rid now. Riley or hicks to full bath and Williams on the wing'"
Very poor refereeing decision as Farrell never had hold of the ball, so there was no advantage.
Another great game again though and the better side on the night won.
There's nothing between the teams though and if they played each other the game could go either way.
It would make a superb grand Final.
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| I still can't believe he did a forward roll over the ball, in a live SL game.
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| One night breathing in pie fumes and it appears certain Warrington fans have caught the Wigan affliction of "slag-Mathersitis".
Right royal cock-up with the junior school acrobatics trying to collect the ball and I'm willing to forgive the dropped ball for the Richards try as I expect he was motoring through to chase a last tackle Briers' grubber when Lee goes off script.
One thing Mathers did exceptionally last night was to negate Richards' quality kick-offs, looked what happened when Morley tried to catch one of them - at least Richie Mathers mopped that one up to spare Morley's blushes.
Even the mess-up on the Farrell no try followed his good full-back play of making Joel "the Hillbilly" Tomkins use his braincell to come up with a poor option kick through when a draw the man and pass could well have lead to a try.
Never mind though what with Warrington winning away at table-topping Wigan, Clarke remaining on the bench and Wainwright well gone "moaners-inc" need some-one to have go at. May as well be Mathers then.
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| Agree Paul. Abosultely perfect. Two mistakes and he is crap.
Remind me what Gleeson did last night and who won the game?
Stop slagging Mathers off the team has just won away to the Pies ffs.
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| He has been awful for weeks and id play Hicks at Full Back for the rest of the campaign and give Mathers the rest he deserves until is BIG move the Cas. What was he doing for Richards 1st Try ?
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"Very poor refereeing decision as Farrell never had hold of the ball, so there was no advantage.
Another great game again though and the better side on the night won.
There's nothing between the teams though and if they played each other the game could go either way.
It would make a superb grand Final.'"
The decision was fine. The advantage was taken when the Wigan player kicked it through.
As for Mathers, he's just not good enough for a team with the ambitions Warrington have. He is a complete and utter liability and a player who has zero intelligence. The mistakes he makes are comical and pretty much always in dangerous positions.
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| I try to stick up for him as much as i can but he just seems cursed or something. The knock on which let to richards try i can get over as it could of happened to anyone but how he managed to lose the ball which nearly lead to a farell try i will never know.
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| Slag us for slating mathers how quick the worm turns BLOODY HELL MATHERS SHOUT THE DIRE.
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| Quote ="mp 1965"Slag us for slating mathers how quick the worm turns BLOODY HELL MATHERS SHOUT THE DIRE.'"
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| what a pratt he actually is
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| Quote ="sir steve menzies"what a pratt he actually is'"
A bigger pratt than Steve McNamara?
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| Quote ="Coops"Of course it was he has now become the new Jon Clarke'"
I thought that was Grix
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| Think ritchie had a poor game last nite,
similar to Brett Hodgson several weeks ago in the challenge cup(SORRY WIGAN)only hodgson came back stronger,mathers really does make some terrible decissions at times almost schoolboy errors but thats how he plays the game...he doznt try and play badly sometimes it comes naturally to him.
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| I think it's the stadium,Mathers is jinxed there.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"I think it's the stadium,Mathers is jinxed there.'"
There must be a witch somewhere who follows a Super League team going round putting a curse on poor Ritchie in just about every stadium he has the misfortune to play in.
I just think there is a more simple solution. He isn't the brightest of blokes, all Brylcreem and 'how big are me guns, do ya fancy me?". He must also have been one of those kids at school who just couldn't catch. You wouldn't have him at slip for the village cricket team would you.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"There must be a witch somewhere who follows a Super League team going round putting a curse on poor Ritchie in just about every stadium he has the misfortune to play in.
I just think there is a more simple solution. He isn't the brightest of blokes, all Brylcreem and 'how big are me guns, do ya fancy me?". He must also have been one of those kids at school who just couldn't catch. You wouldn't have him at slip for the village cricket team would you.'"
Nothing wrong with his catching yesterday, in fact in those conditions he did exceptionally well, he's just rubbish at diving onto balls. It's not the first time he's made that exact mistake he made last night.
We won though so ifs and buts aside i don't care because ultimately he didn't cost us the game so i'm not slagging him off.
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| Quote ="Wire_74"Agree Paul. Abosultely perfect. Two mistakes and he is crap.
Remind me what Gleeson did last night and who won the game?
Stop slagging Mathers off the team has just won away to the Pies ffs.'"
Justifies our decision to get rid even more. Was anonymous last night really except for dropping the ball.
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| Of all the players at Wire who have played centre this season who would swap any of them for Gleeson ?
Gleeson is a good centre i'm not slagging him off, it's just we got rid at the right time, we have better players in better form.
Remember we did this without Bridge who has been very good and consistent all season.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Of all the players at Wire who have played centre this season who would swap any of them for Gleeson ?
Gleeson is a good centre i'm not slagging him off, it's just we got rid at the right time, we have better players in better form.
Remember we did this without Bridge who has been very good and consistent all season.'"
I wouldn't swap Gleeson for any of them.
Atkins took a month or so to settle in but he's been excellent, King has continued to show his quality and Bridge has been outstanding.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"He called me a bright spark because I had a rant at him
I've stuck by Mathers all season, and was gutted when he announced he was leaving. But after last night I'd volunteer to buy his train ticket to Cas (one way)'"
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"
Very poor refereeing decision as Farrell never had hold of the ball, so there was no advantage.'"
Am I the only person who saw the ball rolling towards the Warrington line after Mathers, who was also facing and moving towards the Warrington line, touched it. There was no advantage required as it wasn't a knock on, the ball was clearly knocked backwards. If Joel Thompkins* had been thinking about what he was doing at the time, rather than where he could get his next cheap shot in, wigan could have walked the ball over the line.
[size=50*I know I know, but it doesn't half wind some up![/size
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| Quote ="Thelonius"Am I the only person who saw the ball rolling towards the Warrington line after Mathers, who was also facing and moving towards the Warrington line, touched it. There was no advantage required as it wasn't a knock on, the ball was clearly knocked backwards. If Joel Thompkins* had been thinking about what he was doing at the time, rather than where he could get his next cheap shot in, wigan could have walked the ball over the line.
[size=50*I know I know, but it doesn't half wind some up![/size'"
I agree tbh it only looked like it went forwards as mathers fell backwards after it - the more clearly was travelling towards our own line as you say.
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| Dont fool youself take your primrose and yellow specks off.
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| It was clearly a knock on. We got away with it. Catalans next....
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