I didnt disagree... I just added.

Quote ="Garrincha's Dog"Best props in the SL bar none. '" Now lets not get ahead of ourselves Graham v Morley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Graham v Carvell (has played less matches to be fair) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 the leagues 2nd and 3rd best props and i'd love either one (or both) at saints

Quote ="Garrincha's Dog"Best props in the SL bar none. '" Now lets not get ahead of ourselves Graham v Morley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Graham v Carvell (has played less matches to be fair) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 the leagues 2nd and 3rd best props and i'd love either one (or both) at saints

excellent debating skills there my friend

Morley was phenomenal tonight. Man of the match for me.

Cheers..

Quote ="Saint Simon"Now lets not get ahead of ourselves Graham v Morley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Graham v Carvell (has played less matches to be fair) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 the leagues 2nd and 3rd best props and i'd love either one (or both) at saints'" here's another one that need stats to understand Rugby League.........

Quote ="Saint Simon"Now lets not get ahead of ourselves Graham v Morley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Graham v Carvell (has played less matches to be fair) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 the leagues 2nd and 3rd best props and i'd love either one (or both) at saints'" here's another one that need stats to understand Rugby League.........

Never let the truth get in the way your argument

Quote ="Saint Simon"Now lets not get ahead of ourselves Graham v Morley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Graham v Carvell (has played less matches to be fair) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 the leagues 2nd and 3rd best props and i'd love either one (or both) at saints'" Okay, let's try and read something into those stats. Morley's meters per carry is 8.5metres Graham's is 7.6metres The fact that Graham has 50% more carries suggests that Graham has been on the field for a lot longer than Morley (which I would back up) yet their tackle count is very similar,although Graham misses fewer tackles. If you are going to quote stats, you either need to explain them, or let them speak for themselves, which they clearly don't. I like Graham, but he has some work to do to make sure he doesn't end up like Fielden.

Quote ="Saint Simon"Now lets not get ahead of ourselves Graham v Morley www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 Graham v Carvell (has played less matches to be fair) www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 the leagues 2nd and 3rd best props and i'd love either one (or both) at saints'" Okay, let's try and read something into those stats. Morley's meters per carry is 8.5metres Graham's is 7.6metres The fact that Graham has 50% more carries suggests that Graham has been on the field for a lot longer than Morley (which I would back up) yet their tackle count is very similar,although Graham misses fewer tackles. If you are going to quote stats, you either need to explain them, or let them speak for themselves, which they clearly don't. I like Graham, but he has some work to do to make sure he doesn't end up like Fielden.

that is my major worry, we need another big prop, (like you who have two bis enforcers) or he could burn out. He played 80 mins in france in 28 degree heat and did a full traing session at 9am next morning.
I wish we had secured Carvell when we had a chance

Incorrect.

Where do Fielden and Coley rank?

Fielden probably in the bottom 5. Coley just above.

But at least we know how good our team is.

Top 2 props in the league.

Incorrect.

You lot are more interested in blaming "The Communist Cap" than accepting that other teams are just better than you.

go on then Name two better props ...in the same team......and if you say James Graham and Bryn Hargreaves you must be drinking your own wee through a straw

Ill start you off with Ray Cashmere and Rob Parker...what do you think

He said best 2 props in SL. Don't try and change it.

Incorrect.

A select few would rather blame the cap. Most of us realise that tonight was 2 average-poor teams and Warrington edged it.

I agree with you. It's no good him doing 80 minutes if his contribution is less than two players doing 40 mins each, which looking at his stats it looks to be the case.

At Warrington we have a lot of big players in the pack. Morley, Carvell, Rauhihi, Wood, Westood, Anderson, Anderson, Harrison are all big blokes. Saints have a few smaller pack players in Flannery, Wilkin etc. and whilst this is working at the moment, it is a risk for the future, as you are over-playing Graham. Props should not play for 80 mins. Let's see when he is 26 how good Graham is. Morley has been playing for 15 years and is still at the top level, I do worry for Graham (for England's sake, not Saints!!!!)

I despise non-contributors.

Don't drag Warrington down because of Noble's slow down the ruck tactics.

It's embarassing to watch

I agree. I was very disappointed with Wigan'sapproach tonight, and despite Noble moaning about an 8-1 2nd half penalty count, I would suggest that they got exactly what they deserved.

Nobby's superb tactic was in full view tonight, how they didn't get penalised more for it, i don't know.

Fair play to Morley and Carvell as they were both outstanding i thought.

We're sh*t upfront and Warrington took advantage of that bigtime.

Plenty of improvement needed in both teams though imo but at least you can feel you have it in you.

When Thaler is nailing the ruck, you know you have a problem

So now it's Warrington who want to play the freestyle, attacking Rugby?

Every single team in SL wants to win the ruck. That's how the game is nowadays. If a team gets a quick PTB, they are on the front foot. Most coaches use the same tactics.

best props in the league unluky hull were gettin the best out of carvell

lol