We all want the next Morley but quite frankly I'd settle for the next Paul Wood right now.

We won the 2012 CC final with a pack of Carvell, Hill, Waterhouse, Westwood, Harrison, Morley, Wood and McCarthy.

So: 3 great props (Morley, Carvell, Hill), 1 good one (Wood), 2 big SR's (Westwood & Waterhouse), 1 smaller workhorse (McCarthy) and a proper LF (Harrison).

In our last game against Cas we had: 2 great props (Hill & Cooper), 1 terrible one (Tasi), 4 smaller workhorses (Clark, Currie, Davies, Hughes), 1 impact prop (Philbin)

The balance is all off.

I know it's out of context but if ever there was an example of read em and weep

Worlds apart but inflation alone has taken 400k out of the value if the salary cap in that time.

Plus there are deeper set issues with recruitment it has been hit and miss under both coaches, I know that one player was brought in despite the coach saying no and we persisted in bringing in a player who openly admitted he would rather stay at his club.

Big players will go where they feel they can win a trophy we pay big money because its not really a probability they will get a grand final win with us. Leeds managed to get a good squad on reasonable wages because you will more than likely get a grand final win. Players go to Wigan for their history and good record in finals despite not always having the best squad or being favourites.

We seem to have tried to spread our money too wide in players like akoula Jason Clarke tasi Hughes on squad fillers rather than get 3 good solid players and use youth to cover where squad cannot during a season?

I very much doubt any player turns us down on the basis of not getting to finals. 8 major finals since 2010.

I think it is fair to say that ,especially in our trips to Old Trafford ,we have put up excellent efforts and have generally lost by fine margins ,brought about by mysteriously caused injuries to key players , uneven refereeing decisions &, at times, deliberate gamesmanship by the likes of Ryan Bailey.

And adding Sita and BMM to the list as impact props just adds to the squad imbalance. Why wouldn’t we make say Warmsley an offer he can’t refuse and offload 2-3 to get better balance.

Nah last 2 defeats by Wigan were because we couldnt score for 2 hours.

Winning

https://amp.nine.com.au/article/ca385cb ... ssion=true Thoughts on this guy, seems he is looking to come to the UK.

https://amp.nine.com.au/article/ca385cb ... ssion=true Thoughts on this guy, seems he is looking to come to the UK.

He would tick a couple boxes, tough experienced NRL prop forward. At 29 he’s obviously looking to play aboard/Final big pay day, before retirement. I’m sure he would provide a lot of go forward down the middle, although he has had couple serious long term injuries including an ACL. The RL Mole on Twitter has confirmed we are in talks with a prop down under...

I dont watch NRL so I haven't seen him. I do remember asotasi, dodds and rauhihi had similar write ups when we signed them, I was excited by them but we know what we actually got were players just after a payday or expecting an easy ride in superleague. Is this guy actually hungry to roll his socks up and aim to win trophies or is he just hungry for a big contract to finish on? Superleague is a physical completion at the top and I don't want any more passengers just wanting an easy ride. I hope we do sign at least one prop and I do hope that they are the player(s) we need, big tough, aggressive and importantly able to do a good 60 minutes a match if we need them to.

I think recruitment this season is massively important, we have done very well with widdop but he is 30 we have 5 years of him roughly (hopefully all with Austin partnering him), hill and Cooper are also getting on a bit, Clark, Charnley and ratchford too, we should be really be aiming to hit the ground running and make the most of it whilst it lasts. If we fail to challenge whilst that spine is together then we really have got something wrong, the coaching setup simply has to put together the supporting cast to go around these players and has to get the setup right to give them a platform to perform. I don't think we have that at the moment.

How on earth can people lump dodds in with the likes of asotasi and rauhihi and say he was after an easy pay day. The bloke suffered a horrific leg break a few games into his wire career and never played for us again. Extremely harsh to judge him on the 2 games he played(both of which we won!)

Its called the dallas mead principal

Probably because he was happy to take our money whilst injured and straight back off once got offer from oz here for a payday

So we should stop paying players when they're injured? And I'm not sure he ever played again after returning to Australia.

No but a bit of goodwill would be to see out contract as we stuck by him

He did see out his contract, we only signed him on a 1 year deal and he went home at the end of it.
Gavet from what i've seen is steady but nothing to rave about.
I'm glad the mole has confirmed it, i messaged him ages ago but got nothing back. Fingers crossed it's not one of those lets sign him because theres nobody else around kind of signings.

Can’t find anything about the Mole saying we talking to a prop unless it’s a very old message,all I see in my link is super league clubs interested.

I can't see the Mole post either.

Dodds was injured I know and it was more unfortunate than anything else but the point I was trying to make is that we havent had much luck signing props from the NRL.

Especially when the UK doesnt appear to have a problem in producing world class props. The future stars are out there, so it's just a case of finding them.

Exactly, we are good at producing forwards it's the ball playing and game management skills that they are miles ahead in.

Then I apologise, I thought he cut his trip short after the injury.

[urlhttps://mobile.twitter.com/9_moley/status/1160703166490370048[/url

He gets the asked the question about Wire signing a prop & in response says he is in talks with Wire, which would indicate we are chasing someone out there...

Just realised it can't be James Gavet which i'm happy about if it is a prop coming to us. As he's never played for the Kiwi's only Samoa. I'm gonna go nuts now trying to find out who it is, gonna have a look at test props from the past few years to get excited about