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| Ratchford to halves, Mamo to FB.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"Ratchford to halves, Mamo to FB.'"
I'm happy to see that.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I'm happy to see that.'"
Do you mean Ratch to replace Austin? Surely you would not advocate dropping Patton?
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| I don't get this...I've never once said Ratchford shouldn't be at hb.
I'm a massive fan of him and have lost count how many times I've said you should "always have your best players in back position they can get their hands on the ball".
Re Patton
I've said he's good enough with the talent around...and so he has. He hasn't actually been bad. Not inventive enough for sure.
My preferred 6/7 has always be Austin/Ratchford.
How many times had I said 'a big good un always beats a small good un.?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I don't get this...I've never once said Ratchford shouldn't be at hb.
I'm a massive fan of him and have lost count how many times I've said you should "always have your best players in back position they can get their hands on the ball".
Re Patton
I've said he's good enough with the talent around...and so he has. He hasn't actually been bad. Not inventive enough for sure.
My preferred 6/7 has always be Austin/Ratchford.
How many times had I said 'a big good un always beats a small good un.?'"
He's been awful for weeks
Kicking to nobody, kicks that don't create anything or simply hand possession over. Running across the line and getting tackled. Knocking on at the base of the scrum
At the end of the season he'll be wishing he'd have taken the contract that Huddersfield offered
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"I don't get this...I've never once said Ratchford shouldn't be at hb.
I'm a massive fan of him and have lost count how many times I've said you should "always have your best players in back position they can get their hands on the ball".
Re Patton
I've said he's good enough with the talent around...and so he has. He hasn't actually been bad. Not inventive enough for sure.
My preferred 6/7 has always be Austin/Ratchford.
How many times had I said 'a big good un always beats a small good un.?'"
You've never once said ratchford should be at HB but your preferred 6/7 has always been Austin and ratchford... Love your posts but that contradicts what you say
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| I'm disappointed Dec hasn't played 'who dares wins'...following orders?
Considering he's on a short tender, I'd have wished he'd have done something like Brad Dwyer, backed himself against the wishes of his coach. Come off your a hero and off that earn a honeymoon perod, fail..you're no worse off.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"You've never once said ratchford should be at HB but your preferred 6/7 has always been Austin and ratchford... Love your posts but that contradicts what you say'"
Your kidding. ..I've said it many times...I've said a big half back give presence.
I've said that in defence of Brown.
I've not actually said put Ratchford at half back since Austin was signed, and even after Brown's injury...because I think, thought, Dec would be up to it.
He has the skill...I've seen it...he just hasn't used it.
But pre Austin I've always banged the drum about Ratchford playing at half...or...being in a position he can get his hands on the ball.
(If) I use loosely, that is at fb....so be it.
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| He’s just not very good is he? No excuses now, he’s having a run in the team and must’ve played nearly 100 games in his four or five years in and around the first team.
Average at best in everything he does. We played better without him and with Brown in the team last season and we should’ve gone out and brought someone in once we got the dispensation for Brown. We’ll win nothing with him in the halves the whole season.
Mamo to full back and Ratchford in the halves from now on is a must.
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| It is with a heavy heart I think it's time to offer Salford £1million for Hastings... or £1.5million plus Dec
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| I would like to see Ben Currie in place of Dec Patton.
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| To think we got rid of Dwyer who was mom yesterday.
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| Never been totally convinced about Ratchford's defensive capabilities but by and large this has been overcome by his qualities elsewhere especially in open play. Not sure moving him to hb is the answer as he is more of an individual as opposed to an organising player. We can't have 2 almost identical players in the halves ... obviously referring to Ratchford and Austin
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"Never been totally convinced about Ratchford's defensive capabilities but by and large this has been overcome by his qualities elsewhere especially in open play. Not sure moving him to hb is the answer as he is more of an individual as opposed to an organising player. We can't have 2 almost identical players in the halves ... obviously referring to Ratchford and Austin'"
The 6 & 7 of your day have gone TRM.
It's left channel and right channel hb now. The backrowers and roaming loose and fullback play the rolls of the stand off.
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| I get what you are saying Duckie but second rowers, well the ones we have excluding Currie perhaps, do not have the skill set of what you refer to as the historical role of the stand off.
'your day' ..... Well in 'my' day you had an overall organising halfback and a halfback who had a more free role. They still by and large could play either side of the ruck. I still think you need an overall general and neither Austin or Ratchford for me fit that role.
And as an old fart can you enlighten me on what TRM is.
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| Quote ="The Railwayman"I get what you are saying Duckie but second rowers, well the ones we have excluding Currie perhaps, do not have the skill set of what you refer to as the historical role of the stand off.
'your day' ..... Well in 'my' day you had an overall organising halfback and a halfback who had a more free role. They still by and large could play either side of the ruck. I still think you need an overall general and neither Austin or Ratchford for me fit that role.
And as an old fart can you enlighten me on what TRM is.'"
TRM = The Railway Man?
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| Quote ="matt_wire"TRM = The Railway Man?'"
Teresa May????
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| Quote ="matt_wire"TRM = The Railway Man?'"
That's it MW
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Think by the quietness of this thread, Dec is sitting well with us?'"
nope
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| We're going to be in the playoffs, probably finishing 2nd. Hopefully Brown is fit with a few games under his belt by then.
And then we've got Widdop.
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| Put ratchford at half back and ANYONE else at fullback. Ratchford has some ability as an open field/off the cuff runner. But as a last line of defence he is probably the worst in super league.
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| Quote ="Moe syslak"Put ratchford at half back and ANYONE else at fullback. Ratchford has some ability as an open field/off the cuff runner. But as a last line of defence he is probably the worst in super league.'"
So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?
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Quote ="rubber duckie"So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?'"
Rugby league positions - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league_positions
A rugby league team consists of thirteen players on the field, with four substitutes on the bench. ... article: Fullback (rugby league). Numbered 1, the fullback's primary role is the last line of defence, standing behind the main line of defenders.
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Quote ="rubber duckie"So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?'"
Rugby league positions - Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rugby_league_positions
A rugby league team consists of thirteen players on the field, with four substitutes on the bench. ... article: Fullback (rugby league). Numbered 1, the fullback's primary role is the last line of defence, standing behind the main line of defenders.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"So what does last line of defence have to do with fullback?'"
Thank you for confirming to everyone that you are an idiot!
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