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Quote ="Snaggletooth"Whomever the board are looking at or indeed chasing for a signature, I hope it is not a protracted event. If Maguire is now free and SM wants him then let get him over the line soonest.'"
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... ybiwf.html
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Quote ="Snaggletooth"Whomever the board are looking at or indeed chasing for a signature, I hope it is not a protracted event. If Maguire is now free and SM wants him then let get him over the line soonest.'"
www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/leag ... ybiwf.html
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| To appoint Briers or Monaghan would be crazy. Very limited experience. Similar to the CEO appointment. Let them earn their spurs and prove they are worthy of leading one of the top professional RL teams (on paper)
Maguire has not failed in Oz. He has won an NRL and a SL title. I cannot think of many others with that pedigree who have just become available.
In any case it completely kills that inane "yeah but who else could we get if Smith left us" mantra that was trotted out not so many months ago.
Money is not a stumbling block.
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| Quote ="Wires71"To appoint Briers or Monaghan would be crazy. Very limited experience. Similar to the CEO appointment. Let them earn their spurs and prove they are worthy of leading one of the top professional RL teams (on paper)
Maguire has not failed in Oz. He has won an NRL and a SL title. I cannot think of many others with that pedigree who have just become available.
In any case it completely kills that inane "yeah but who else could we get if Smith left us" mantra that was trotted out not so many months ago.
Money is not a stumbling block.'"
Under TS we have been good a winning when we are well in front early doors. What has been lacking in my opinion is the will to win when the chips are down. Michael Maguire and now Shaun Wane at Wigan have instilled that "You shall not pass" attitude that gets you over the line in tight games in the teams that they have coached. I for one would welcome MM to the HJ. Lets get a win at all costs attitude, this is what wins you Grand Finals.
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| Wouldn't touch Briers with a barge pole, he is already a part of the coaching set up so he to is responsible for where we are with Agar and Smith.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Wouldn't touch Briers with a barge pole, he is already a part of the coaching set up so he to is responsible for where we are with Agar and Smith.'"
Whilst that is true, Lee is starting on his coaching career and needs to be mentored. The end point responsibility lies with Smith.
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| Ultimate responsibility for the season lies with Tony Smith and he alone. From all accounts he has fallen on his sword and is only seeing us through until the end of the season. The level of responsibility given to the other coaches I am unsure about. I was never keen on Agar from day one, which was solely based on the wherever he was, he always seemed to do a poor job. On that basis and the fact that we have gone backwards at a rate of knots this season allows me to conclude that he has to go too.
Lee Briers has steadily climbed the coaching structure at the club since his retirement and at this point of his coaching career I am willing to say that he should be part of the club for the immediate future, however he must be nurtured by an experienced coach. I would bring Michael Monaghan back as assistant coach along with Briers to whoever we bring in to replace TS. What i do know and have known for a while is that we need a coach that can oversee all aspects of Defence. We miss to many tackles, shoot out of the line (even Peta Hiku did it last week), and generally have been extremely poor.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Wouldn't touch Briers with a barge pole, he is already a part of the coaching set up so he to is responsible for where we are with Agar and Smith.'"
I enjoy all these Briers for head coach posts . I loved Lee as a player however , he has been coaching the attack from the start of this season and it doesn't look great to me .
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| Could be some cost cutting going on next season, until we’re in profit again. Briers as head coach, or TS seeing out his contract. Lots of players contracts up, few replacements coming in. All points towards saving money.
I really hope I’m wrong, but the signs are there.
What about the new structure in 2019 as well. Surely that has an effect, how do you plan for the next 5 years when you only know the make-up of the competition for the next season?
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| Quote ="zzhead"Could be some cost cutting going on next season, until we’re in profit again. Briers as head coach, or TS seeing out his contract. Lots of players contracts up, few replacements coming in. All points towards saving money.
I really hope I’m wrong, but the signs are there.
What about the new structure in 2019 as well. Surely that has an effect, how do you plan for the next 5 years when you only know the make-up of the competition for the next season?'"
No one seriously believes that a club of Wire's ambition will appoint someone as inexperienced and unproven as Lee Briers as head coach, and there is no chance that Tony Smity will hold that position after the end of this season, either. The fact that no new signings have yet to be announced has more to do with the fact that we can't confirm to any prospective newcomesrs that we will be in SL. I expect quite a lot to change in the weeks after out final match against HKR.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13" The fact that no new signings have yet to be announced has more to do with the fact that we can't confirm to any prospective newcomesrs that we will be in SL. I expect quite a lot to change in the weeks after out final match against HKR.'"
We may well be safe (guaranteed 3rd or above) before that.
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| Quote ="Asgardian13"No one seriously believes that a club of Wire's ambition will appoint someone as inexperienced and unproven as Lee Briers as head coach, and there is no chance that Tony Smity will hold that position after the end of this season, either. The fact that no new signings have yet to be announced has more to do with the fact that we can't confirm to any prospective newcomesrs that we will be in SL. I expect quite a lot to change in the weeks after out final match against HKR.'"
We recruited a CEO with no experience and unproven in that role! What makes you think we wouldn't with a coach..........
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| Quote ="Wires71"To appoint Briers or Monaghan would be crazy. Very limited experience. Similar to the CEO appointment. Let them earn their spurs and prove they are worthy of leading one of the top professional RL teams (on paper)
Maguire has not failed in Oz. He has won an NRL and a SL title. I cannot think of many others with that pedigree who have just become available.
In any case it completely kills that inane "yeah but who else could we get if Smith left us" mantra that was trotted out not so many months ago.
Money is not a stumbling block.'"
How can money not be a stumbling block when we have just declared a £265k loss for 2016 & likely a loss this year I'm no accountant but surely that is unsustainable
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| Quote ="wynnez"How can money not be a stumbling block when we have just declared a £265k loss for 2016 & likely a loss this year I'm no accountant but surely that is unsustainable'"
1) I am led to believe we have a majority shareholder who has a reputation for largesse.
2) The loss in the last results were explained by the chairman to be exceptional rather than the norm.
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| Quote ="kirtonLindseyWolf"Ultimate responsibility for the season lies with Tony Smith and he alone. From all accounts he has fallen on his sword and is only seeing us through until the end of the season. The level of responsibility given to the other coaches I am unsure about. I was never keen on Agar from day one, which was solely based on the wherever he was, he always seemed to do a poor job. On that basis and the fact that we have gone backwards at a rate of knots this season allows me to conclude that he has to go too.
Lee Briers has steadily climbed the coaching structure at the club since his retirement and at this point of his coaching career I am willing to say that he should be part of the club for the immediate future, however he must be nurtured by an experienced coach. I would bring Michael Monaghan back as assistant coach along with Briers to whoever we bring in to replace TS. What i do know and have known for a while is that we need a coach that can oversee all aspects of Defence. We miss to many tackles, shoot out of the line (even Peta Hiku did it last week), and generally have been extremely poor.'"
Surely any new coach would choose his own assistant so not necessarily keep Lee Briers or anyone else.
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| Quote ="wynnez"Surely any new coach would choose his own assistant so not necessarily keep Lee Briers or anyone else.'"
Did Michael Maguire not have Shaun Wane as his assistant at Wigan. Did he choose him or bring him in as part of his coaching team or did Wigan plan for the future after MM departure? I believe that if we do bring in MM then part of the deal would be for Briers at least to remain on the coaching staff. Not necessarily to be the Head Coach after Michael Maguire, but one or two further down the line. He has to complete his apprenticeship prior to pitting his wits against the big boys.
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| I heard a rumour a few weeks back, that we were enquiring about Jason Demetriou, but we were told that he wouldn't be available until the season had finished. Not sure if we lost interest then or are just waiting till he becomes available?
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| I think Wane was Maguire's assistant at Wigan ,but Wane has the intelligence to only get his main players fit for the last third of the season ,for the games that matter.
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| MM's current contract might have been 800k Aussie a season, in the period after his GF success.
Won't be offered anything like that based on his previous.
Same as Smith's current salary I would estimate, with bonus add ons.
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| If we go for an unproven coach I would go for Poachin or Demitriau
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| I for one wouldn't relish watching a 'Maguire style of play' team.
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| Quote ="gary numan"I for one wouldn't relish watching a 'Maguire style of play' team.'"
Have you enjoyed this years however?
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"Have you enjoyed this years however?'" No, your point is?
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| Quote ="gary numan"I for one wouldn't relish watching a 'Maguire style of play' team.'"
Neither would I, but I'd take the trophy haul of Wigan under the Maguire / Wane regime and style of play over ours during the same period.
If he wins the GF during a 2 year stay with us I'd be quite happy to then go back to entertaining rugby with the odd cup win, knowing we'd actually won Super League and gotten rid of the bridesmaid tag and humiliation of being the big club that can't win the big trophy...
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| Quote ="easyWire"Neither would I, but I'd take the trophy haul of Wigan under the Maguire / Wane regime and style of play over ours during the same period.
If he wins the GF during a 2 year stay with us I'd be quite happy to then go back to entertaining rugby with the odd cup win, knowing we'd actually won Super League and gotten rid of the bridesmaid tag and humiliation of being the big club that can't win the big trophy...'"
So you preach for morals but will sell out. Easy by name and easy by nature.
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| I quite like the thought of poaching and Marshall reuniteing as our coaching set up. Seeing as they had us playing some of the best rugby we have seen in 2011.
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