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| Quote ="karetaker"It's only Thursday doesn't mean either of them couldn't back up if necessary, not as if they are Forwards.'"
Is less than 48 hours enough time to fully recover for a massive match though?
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| Quote ="The Perry Boy"Is less than 48 hours enough time to fully recover for a massive match though?'"
Lots of different equations, how much exertion in tonight's game and if something is wrong with anyone in the 19 atm, will only know come Saturday afternoon.
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| Quote ="Big Dave 3"No Lineham!'"
Lineham is not even playing in the reserves.(who are playing tonight.) It is not looking good for him
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| Reserves beat Saints 26-12 tonight does anyone know if Penny played any minutes? Was hoping he was in on Sat.
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| Quote ="Shazbaz"Reserves beat Saints 26-12 tonight does anyone know if Penny played any minutes? Was hoping he was in on Sat.'"
He started on the wing according to Twitter. Not sure if he played the full game though.
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| Quote ="Builth Wells Wire"Lineham is not even playing in the reserves.(who are playing tonight.) It is not looking good for him'"
I have no idea what is going on with Lineham.
Stiff talking to / kick up the arris or some tlc / home cooking?
My guess is he was brought in on Agar's say - same as Westerman, albeit Joe had played with TS before I think.
So how the hell can things be going soo badly for him?
Either Agar is a complete ***** when it comes to understanding a player - one he's worked with for some time, or Tom has some real real problems that need serious help. Or does he just need to grow up?
Very very strange.
He's performing well below his Hull days and I guess he wishes he was back there now!
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| Quote ="fez1"I have no idea what is going on with Lineham.
Stiff talking to / kick up the arris or some tlc / home cooking?
My guess is he was brought in on Agar's say - same as Westerman, albeit Joe had played with TS before I think.
So how the hell can things be going soo badly for him?
Either Agar is a complete ***** when it comes to understanding a player - one he's worked with for some time, or Tom has some real real problems that need serious help. Or does he just need to grow up?
Very very strange.
He's performing well below his Hull days and I guess he wishes he was back there now!'"
How on earth are we going to offload him? Who would want him on his current contract wage.
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| Heard Lineham is not wanted. Apparently we offered him to Cats, but they didn't want him.
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| Can't blame them. Glad Agar is even getting the blame for Lineham now.
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| Quote ="fez1"I have no idea what is going on with Lineham.
Stiff talking to / kick up the arris or some tlc / home cooking?
My guess is he was brought in on Agar's say - same as Westerman, albeit Joe had played with TS before I think.
So how the hell can things be going soo badly for him?
Either Agar is a complete ***** when it comes to understanding a player - one he's worked with for some time, or Tom has some real real problems that need serious help. Or does he just need to grow up?
Very very strange.
He's performing well below his Hull days and I guess he wishes he was back there now!'"
Why would he have been bought on Agars say? Lineham was there in Agars final season at Hull, but it was his first season playing there, I doubt Lineham even played a first team game under Agar.
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| I think the benefits of Lineham were pretty clear while at Hull, big, fast and strong.
I just think he has been given a few bits to work on. Same as Clark last year, he put on a lot of weight and focused on his defence, leaving the natural bits to one side.
I'm just hoping the penny drops for Lineham and he works out how much of a big unit he is and is and realises he can do much more than just put the ball down if he puts his mind to it.
Costly reserve (or Rochdale) player though. I suspect he will be up for review at the end of the year
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| It's not looking good for him, I would love him to come good and believe he will at some point (perhaps not at wire). If (big if) he isn't showing willingness to work on his game and has a poor attitude then surely he has to be moved on.
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| I'm guessing that Ratchford might not be cleared to play after his head knock last week? Hence Patton's inclusion?
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"I'm guessing that Ratchford might not be cleared to play after his head knock last week? Hence Patton's inclusion?'"
Patton played in reserves last night, doesn't mean he couldn't back up but others think it unlikely, Penny also played last night.
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| Think you guys have a much better squad on paper.. I just don't hope you guys run away with it; I hope it's a good game for all the neutrals at home and the best team wins.
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| Quote ="CW8"It's not looking good for him, I would love him to come good and believe he will at some point (perhaps not at wire). If (big if) he isn't showing willingness to work on his game and has a poor attitude then surely he has to be moved on.'"
i'd have him on his own schedule at the moment, consisting of weight loss, permanently turning and chasing kicks in behind him (reactions) and learning to not come in off his wing, by getting someone to stand with a brush handle with a screw driver on the end of it, if he comes in at the wrong time, he gets a jab in the chest.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"i'd have him on his own schedule at the moment, consisting of weight loss, permanently turning and chasing kicks in behind him (reactions) and learning to not come in off his wing, by getting someone to stand with a brush handle with a screw driver on the end of it, if he comes in at the wrong time, he gets a jab in the chest.'"
Sounds fair enough, good talking to and dropped to think about what you (haven't) done isn't working so far. I really do want him to come good, Lineham at his best would be great to have for some of the big matches coming up, if we win tomorrow and the idea of making a Wembley match day squad doesn't wake him up then what will?
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| Quote ="fez1"I have no idea what is going on with Lineham.
Stiff talking to / kick up the arris or some tlc / home cooking?
My guess is he was brought in on Agar's say - same as Westerman, albeit Joe had played with TS before I think.
So how the hell can things be going soo badly for him?
Either Agar is a complete ***** when it comes to understanding a player - one he's worked with for some time, or Tom has some real real problems that need serious help. Or does he just need to grow up?
Very very strange.
He's performing well below his Hull days and I guess he wishes he was back there now!'"
Wow it didn't take long for Agar to take the rap for Lineham's recruitment!
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| Quote ="Vespid_Wire"I'm guessing that Ratchford might not be cleared to play after his head knock last week? Hence Patton's inclusion?'"
Sorry, but I don't think that works as Patton played for the reserves last night. Even if he played for half the game, he could easily pick up a broken leg or a concussion which would keep him out of the CC semi. Surely not a risk the coach would make with the most important game of the season so far coming up. So I suspect his inclusion is a nod from TS to say he is doing well and that he will get his chance again.
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Quote ="Alffi_7"Why would he have been bought on Agars say? Lineham was there in Agars final season at Hull, but it was his first season playing there, I doubt Lineham even played a first team game under Agar.'"
www.rugby-league.com/article/324 ... he-look-of
May be putting two and two together to make five, but as Agar brought Lineham to Hull from York my suspicions are that he is indeed his 'sponsor'.
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www.rugby-league.com/article/324 ... he-look-of
May be putting two and two together to make five, but as Agar brought Lineham to Hull from York my suspicions are that he is indeed his 'sponsor'.
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| It always amazes me how Agar always gets wheeled out even if there is the slightest chances of the wheels falling the Wire campaign wagon.
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| BD3 / ninearches
Ultimately the call on recruitment is TS's so he takes the rap, but in my view Agar would have had a major say - a recommendation. It's simply illogical that he wouldn't have had.
Decisions on the rest of the 2016 recruitment - for me at least - is very positive.
I'd say all others are performing at least at the level we expected, and many far better than that hoped for.
But I don't think this has much to do with 'the wheels falling off the wagon'.
I'm confident that with this squad we will get to Wembley and be in the top 4, irrespective of whether Lineham plays or not.
And then it's all down to who performs on the day.
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| Best of luck Wire on Saturday.Still think Sims is a second rower..Hope he prooves me wrong.
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| From what I have seen Lineham has neither the attitude or application to sort his career out. He needs to grow up.
Whoever sanctioned his signing needs a reality check.
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| Don't know about you guys but I'm very nervous about today. Good luck and may the best team win.
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