Because I never stated which team had the better players. I don't even know.

No but you felt the need to answer, flippantly, when I was asking a genuine question.

As for "obsessed with praise" I think you need to have a word with a couple of your own fans before you start hefting those rocks

I am genuinly interested in an oppositions assessement of our players.

If you dont have an opinion, why answer?

One bellend has been courting for praise across these sites. Against a veritable pack of Giants fans who descend on any forum to defend their team when anyone suggests they might not win easily.

I'll keep answering because I'm a Warrington fan and I don't see what that has to do with jumped-up Huddersfield fans on a self-pleasuring foray onto the Warrington board.

My view was what I stated earlier and on other threads. Huddersfield have some genuine class, but none of those players strikes fear (or should strike fear) into our club like tried and tested champions like Long, Cunningham, Peacock, Gidley might.

Again you are disturbingly defensive over a geniune comment and still refuse to answer a genuine question. I gavent made a comment either way, I am just interested in the perception and where it comes from.

If you cant answer, then leave it to the poster I quoted directly.

Giants have a fantastic defence, mainly built on the way they slow down the play the ball, allowing them to be in position well before the ball is played.
If Wire can show an eagerness to get up quickly when tackled, I think we can negate that tactic - and put the Giant's defence under great pressure.
If Giants are allowed to slow down the play the ball, I fear for our chances, and for the chances of the final being an entertaining game.

Know what you mean Browny, Huddersfield, this that and the other is better than Warringtons, so why does any Warrington fan dare think wire could beat Hudds....is the way some Hudds fans are coming across to me.

Have you read any posts by your own fans lately?

I am not making a comment about the better team, or players. I am asking a genuine question.

If questions like this upset you, then fair enough.

Have a look at Warringtons score prediction thread on this forum, 2nd post down. It seems to me if anyone says Warrington can win, one of your lot pop up with some stats time and time again......these stats mean nothing come the game on Saturday, its like some of your fans think you cant lose because Huddersfield have better stats than Warrington. Thats just the way some are coming across.

wasn't saying he was an 'ok' coach r kid or that your squad is no good in fact what i meant was the opposite

brown is obviously a good coach because he has turned hudds into a good, consistent outfit

i was simply observing that he once had a team including barrett, gasnier, cooper, ryles, timmins (much bigger names at the time than anyone you have got now, no offence intended but they were top nrl/origin/kangaroo names) and i thought that the drags didn't cut it consistently and often 'choked' because browny wasn't a great coach back then

maybe some coaches work better with different sets of players e.g. cullen did his best work with appos and nat woods not with monaghans and kings

maybe he was just young and inexperienced back in those days

maybe he has brought some tactics from the nrl that coaches who have been in superleague longer aren't fully wise to yet e.g. wrestling moves

Good assessment that chief.
How that team in 05 didn't win it I don't know

Daft thread this IMO.

The two teams are too close to call - both got great coaches and team spirit....

Surely, Huddersfield and Wire fans shouldn't be bickering like this - OK, if it was us V Saints or The Giants V Leeds then maybe, but these two sets of fans don't have a problem with each other, and little rivalry, which is what should make this a great weekend......again, just my opinion....

well said dear chap

Be fair I have seen Westwood and Mathers deliver a few forearm smashes - and Mozza in his youth

I'm not bickering, I am looking for genuine debate, looks like I picked the wrong forum.

Which players do you feel are better than ours in the same position?

Fullback for starters



I think they are two very evenly matched squad really, barring fullback I think the 3/4 line is pretty even

Halfbacks, we have standoffs, you dont seem to at the moment
Scrum half, you will completely dissagree but I think this season both have been on a par, and both are key to making our respective teams tick

Forwards. You have Mozza who is simply superb, but we have Crabtree who is also superb, Mozza has done it before though so has the edge, but we have Mason and Griffin who are clearly dominant over your other forwards

We have better hookers and I think our second rows are equal but you may have a better 13

Most importantly though we have a better bench to my mind.

I would agree with most of that, I did a thread on here few days ago about who I think will cause us the most problems in attack for you went for

Brett Hodgson
Luke Robinson
Scott Moore
Leroy Cudjoe

What do you think? I would add Crabtree to that as well.

crabtree's games against us usually go for and against, i think we're due to slap him about this time iirc.

All of this thread is valid about who has on paper the better team, however I think it will mainly down to attiitude on the day of the individual players.

I'm glad we're playing wire, as you have some very vocal but genreally good fans to talk to.

We'll see in 45 hours time who was right!!!

Very true GL


Crabtree is massive for us in attack, his ability to pull the defence in cannot be underestimated, then he can get the offload out

One things for sure, if him and Mozza are lined up together in the autumn tests, there are gonna be fireworks.

An area I don't believe we defend very well either.

Crabtree is an excellent player who, as TCP notes, we either deal with easily or we allow to run riot. If it's the latter, we may well struggle. Not in the least bit concerned about Mason or Griffin. Obvious points I know but Hodgson (Aus) and Robinson will also be absolutely crucial. The Giants aren't where they are by accident and fully deserve their league placing which is way better than ours.

Hoary old cliche but we're going to have to play extremely well to win this game. That would ring true if it was being played on a park field, never mind Wembley. We'll get done, hugely, if we're anything other than bang on it and I'm expecting the Huddersfield team of my nightmares...

yeah mate they do have a track record but i think random high shots rarely achieve much other than giving away penalties and firing the opposition up

i wasn't actually criticising either about the wrestling moves...they are within the rules at the moment and although it seems a bit cynical to bend people's necks and roll on their legs, while they aren't outlawed whoever uses them nest knackers their opponents out most

I think its fair to say, both teams are going to have to play to their best to be in with a shout, and of they do, it will be a classic.