|
 |
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 13016 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Nov 2015 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Deal.
I've enjoyed watching him but it's time for change. It's time to back the coach because god knows we've all backed the players enough times, only now, we've got a coach that you feel is worth backing.
He's the closest to the situation, day in day out, he'll got a gut feel for peoples motivations, appetite & such. If Smith, Gleeson or both think that it's the best for both parties, and we do okay out of the agreement, then I think it's time.
What is it that folk bring up, Individuals win matches, Teams win Trophies ? Something like that, I'll go with that, lets get a team together, and if sacrifice a bit of flair, or toss away a bit of talent that might well come back and bite us or whatever, then so be it, because it's all orientated towards getting what we want, success.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 19907 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Oct 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="sally cinnamon"well they got to 2 major finals under Mike Gregory in 2003 and 2004, and we were around 6th-7th that time not exactly relegation fodder
last year we came 6th, they came 4th, we got knocked out the first round of the playoffs, they got through to the final eliminator
the year before we came 7th, they came 4th, we didn't make the playoffs, they got through to the final eliminator
Im sure if those positions were reversed, and a Wigan fan came on here telling us that Wigan were better than us, he wouldn't get much support for his argument!
I wonder if we had come 4th in the last two seasons and recorded the playoff wins that they had, that great turn around against Bradford....beating Catalans in Catalans....if Paul Cullen would still be in a job. I'm sure he would.'"
Sorry, I don't subscribe to this 'we nearly made it' nonsense. It's like saying we were quite good under Van de Velde because we made the quarter and semi-final of the Challenge Cup! |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 20628 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
He's leaving at the end of the season anyway so personally i don't really care.
Smith [iprobably[/i wants committed players (Gleeson obviously isn't).
Personally i would prefer other players coming in.
offload him to leeds and get some promising talent like Ashley Gibson.
but getting in players that Wigan don't even want?
Wigan have been more successful in SL but they are still not a great team.
Gleeson would be making an even bigger mistake than the one he did leaving Saints.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 11464 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2024 | Aug 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
I assume Smith is thinking back to when he worked with Mathers at Leeds. I am going to trust his judgment.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 93 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| May 2012 | Jun 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Very good player when on form, can sometimes be a bit inconsistent. He’ll be amazing for a run of games then have a lean spell for several games. Like most have stated you have to worry about the calibre of replacement if they can’t get into a poor Wigan side. It’s almost the equivalent deal of us swapping reardon (was once good + injury problems) and blythe (up and coming-ish player with super league experience who now can’t get into the team) for Carmont (their best centre).
Hopefully a nice chunk of cash will ease the pain and Tony smith can continue his revolution.
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 66 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2010 | Dec 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
sally this is the best post ever thank you and i look forward to more whats your views on jon clarke villian or hero? I can never work the guy out
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 145 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jan 2008 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2012 | Dec 2011 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Deal..
If Smith isn't going to play him as a centre then we should get rid.
No Deal..
If Smith is going to put him back as centre.
But i would like to know the following before anything happens;
a)if Gleeson want to go
b)if Smith thinks PJ is a better centre
c)he thinks that Gleeson is a our best option at Stand Off.
d)we need the money.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 484 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Oct 2009 | Jan 1970 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Deal for me, I'm just wondering where this will leave us line-up wise? I think Riley has done okay at fullback and Johnson at centre, obviously Goulding and Mathers wouldn't both just stroll into the side but I see alot of upside in Goulding, put that together with Smith's track record of working with younger players and bringing them through then it all bodes well for the future. I may be wrong on this point but did Richie Mathers play stand-off at all in his academy days.
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 815 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2019 | Sep 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="wwolves02"But i would like to know the following before anything happens;
a)if Gleeson want to go
b)if Smith thinks PJ is a better centre
c)he thinks that Gleeson is a our best option at Stand Off.
d)we need the money.'"
Is the deal being delayed waiting upon your approval? |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 19907 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jan 2025 | Oct 2018 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Simple anwer; in Smith we trust.
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 20628 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Herb Narvo"Is the deal being delayed waiting upon your approval?'"
He's going anyway so i suppose getting 2 average players in the deal is better than nothing |
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 13723 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Feb 2002 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2023 | Apr 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="YED79"He's going anyway so i suppose getting 2 average players in the deal is better than nothing'"
No he isn't. He is contracted for 2010. He's been told we would be willing to release him if can get a gig in the NRL. That is not the same as he is leaving anyway. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 20628 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Mar 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2016 | Aug 2016 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="SEB"No he isn't. He is contracted for 2010. He's been told we would be willing to release him if can get a gig in the NRL. That is not the same as he is leaving anyway.'"
Ok, but it's no big secret he wants to leave.
Let's not kid ourselves SEB
Contract or not if a player wants to go then he's not fully committed.
If the players he gets in want to be here then i'd rather have that than a half committed international. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 16273 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2004 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Dec 2024 | Dec 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Mathers has played stand off before but if he came to us surely it would be as a fullback.
I reckon he might have some of the same frustration in him that Gleeson does, about opportunities missed. He was an excellent player for Leeds in 2004-06 and unlike a lot of British players he had the balls to look to the NRL so he is obviously ambitious. Then a bad injury ruined his season with Gold Coast after he'd made a good start, and he's come back into SL in a negative environment at Wigan where the whole club is frustrated about underachieving. He will have watched Leeds win SL twice in the two years he's been away, last year he was in the Wigan team that had 50 odd put on them by Leeds at the JJB and I bet he thinks the last few years have been a right botch for him. If things had turned out differently, he hadn't gone to Aus and got injured, he would probably have 2 more Grand Final rings and have some international caps by now. You can see the frustration by the way he has turned into a dirty player at Wigan.
However he is still only 25 so his career is retrievable...he played the best rugby of his career under Tony Smith so it will be a good option for him to reunite with him. Thierry Henry's career was stagnating when he was on the wing at Juventus and when he got back working with his former Monaco coach in Arsene Wenger he refound his confidence.
The Wigan fans will scoff at him and say he's crap if he leaves but he was good for us on loan in 2002, he was very good at Leeds, he started well at Gold Coast and it's only at Wigan he hasn't done it, so its a bit like a Monaghan situation....if Monas signs for Canberra next year I wouldn't be telling them he was crap in case he goes and does well back down there again.
Yes I have my doubts like everyone else about the state of his fitness and whether he's another of the players who burnt out early in his career (Grose? Reardon?) and will be treading water for the rest of his time...but Tony Smith knows Mathers well and if he thinks he's worth the punt then I'm up for it.
We have to shake up the squad some way and we need to find players with talent and ambition - Mathers is that, he's a fiesty competitor as well so I don't think he would be the type to accept being crap.
Here's a blast from the past article about when Mathers signed for us as a junior in 1997:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 49003.html
and when we signed him on loan in 2002:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 93314.html |
|
Mathers has played stand off before but if he came to us surely it would be as a fullback.
I reckon he might have some of the same frustration in him that Gleeson does, about opportunities missed. He was an excellent player for Leeds in 2004-06 and unlike a lot of British players he had the balls to look to the NRL so he is obviously ambitious. Then a bad injury ruined his season with Gold Coast after he'd made a good start, and he's come back into SL in a negative environment at Wigan where the whole club is frustrated about underachieving. He will have watched Leeds win SL twice in the two years he's been away, last year he was in the Wigan team that had 50 odd put on them by Leeds at the JJB and I bet he thinks the last few years have been a right botch for him. If things had turned out differently, he hadn't gone to Aus and got injured, he would probably have 2 more Grand Final rings and have some international caps by now. You can see the frustration by the way he has turned into a dirty player at Wigan.
However he is still only 25 so his career is retrievable...he played the best rugby of his career under Tony Smith so it will be a good option for him to reunite with him. Thierry Henry's career was stagnating when he was on the wing at Juventus and when he got back working with his former Monaco coach in Arsene Wenger he refound his confidence.
The Wigan fans will scoff at him and say he's crap if he leaves but he was good for us on loan in 2002, he was very good at Leeds, he started well at Gold Coast and it's only at Wigan he hasn't done it, so its a bit like a Monaghan situation....if Monas signs for Canberra next year I wouldn't be telling them he was crap in case he goes and does well back down there again.
Yes I have my doubts like everyone else about the state of his fitness and whether he's another of the players who burnt out early in his career (Grose? Reardon?) and will be treading water for the rest of his time...but Tony Smith knows Mathers well and if he thinks he's worth the punt then I'm up for it.
We have to shake up the squad some way and we need to find players with talent and ambition - Mathers is that, he's a fiesty competitor as well so I don't think he would be the type to accept being crap.
Here's a blast from the past article about when Mathers signed for us as a junior in 1997:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 49003.html
and when we signed him on loan in 2002:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 93314.html | |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 5678 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Oct 2007 | 17 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2012 | Sep 2012 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Quote ="sally cinnamon"Mathers has played stand off before but if he came to us surely it would be as a fullback.
I reckon he might have some of the same frustration in him that Gleeson does, about opportunities missed. He was an excellent player for Leeds in 2004-06 and unlike a lot of British players he had the balls to look to the NRL so he is obviously ambitious. Then a bad injury ruined his season with Gold Coast after he'd made a good start, and he's come back into SL in a negative environment at Wigan where the whole club is frustrated about underachieving. He will have watched Leeds win SL twice in the two years he's been away, last year he was in the Wigan team that had 50 odd put on them by Leeds at the JJB and I bet he thinks the last few years have been a right botch for him. If things had turned out differently, he hadn't gone to Aus and got injured, he would probably have 2 more Grand Final rings and have some international caps by now. You can see the frustration by the way he has turned into a dirty player at Wigan.
However he is still only 25 so his career is retrievable...he played the best rugby of his career under Tony Smith so it will be a good option for him to reunite with him. Thierry Henry's career was stagnating when he was on the wing at Juventus and when he got back working with his former Monaco coach in Arsene Wenger he refound his confidence.
The Wigan fans will scoff at him and say he's crap if he leaves but he was good for us on loan in 2002, he was very good at Leeds, he started well at Gold Coast and it's only at Wigan he hasn't done it, so its a bit like a Monaghan situation....if Monas signs for Canberra next year I wouldn't be telling them he was crap in case he goes and does well back down there again.
Yes I have my doubts like everyone else about the state of his fitness and whether he's another of the players who burnt out early in his career (Grose? Reardon?) and will be treading water for the rest of his time...but Tony Smith knows Mathers well and if he thinks he's worth the punt then I'm up for it.
We have to shake up the squad some way and we need to find players with talent and ambition - Mathers is that, he's a fiesty competitor as well so I don't think he would be the type to accept being crap.
Here's a blast from the past article about when Mathers signed for us as a junior in 1997:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 49003.html
and when we signed him on loan in 2002:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 93314.html'"
Ahmm, sounds abit familiar. |
|
Quote ="sally cinnamon"Mathers has played stand off before but if he came to us surely it would be as a fullback.
I reckon he might have some of the same frustration in him that Gleeson does, about opportunities missed. He was an excellent player for Leeds in 2004-06 and unlike a lot of British players he had the balls to look to the NRL so he is obviously ambitious. Then a bad injury ruined his season with Gold Coast after he'd made a good start, and he's come back into SL in a negative environment at Wigan where the whole club is frustrated about underachieving. He will have watched Leeds win SL twice in the two years he's been away, last year he was in the Wigan team that had 50 odd put on them by Leeds at the JJB and I bet he thinks the last few years have been a right botch for him. If things had turned out differently, he hadn't gone to Aus and got injured, he would probably have 2 more Grand Final rings and have some international caps by now. You can see the frustration by the way he has turned into a dirty player at Wigan.
However he is still only 25 so his career is retrievable...he played the best rugby of his career under Tony Smith so it will be a good option for him to reunite with him. Thierry Henry's career was stagnating when he was on the wing at Juventus and when he got back working with his former Monaco coach in Arsene Wenger he refound his confidence.
The Wigan fans will scoff at him and say he's crap if he leaves but he was good for us on loan in 2002, he was very good at Leeds, he started well at Gold Coast and it's only at Wigan he hasn't done it, so its a bit like a Monaghan situation....if Monas signs for Canberra next year I wouldn't be telling them he was crap in case he goes and does well back down there again.
Yes I have my doubts like everyone else about the state of his fitness and whether he's another of the players who burnt out early in his career (Grose? Reardon?) and will be treading water for the rest of his time...but Tony Smith knows Mathers well and if he thinks he's worth the punt then I'm up for it.
We have to shake up the squad some way and we need to find players with talent and ambition - Mathers is that, he's a fiesty competitor as well so I don't think he would be the type to accept being crap.
Here's a blast from the past article about when Mathers signed for us as a junior in 1997:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 49003.html
and when we signed him on loan in 2002:
archive.warringtonguardian.co.uk ... 93314.html'"
Ahmm, sounds abit familiar. | |
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1983 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| From the Warrington Guardian article -
Quote when head coach David Plange will then have the option to sign him for a fee which has already been agreed.'"
I take it we didn't take them up on this, hence the reason he went back to Leeds? I cannot remember. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Board Member | 14278 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| May 2003 | 22 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2017 | Feb 2012 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Ahhhh, David Plange.  |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1983 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2006 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2024 | Apr 2024 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 1970 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Aug 2014 | Aug 2014 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Bobby_Peru" '"
crikey,ashley cole's put some beef on.
i hope it's a deal,gleeson has disappointed on the whole,when he signed for us he wasn't happy and to me he has always wanted to be elsewhere. |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 363 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2016 | Apr 2015 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| wigan have done a great piece of bussiness here
a GB centre in for 2 reserve players who are at best average
 ian lenegan |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 12189 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="pieeater123"wigan have done a great piece of bussiness here
a GB centre in for 2 reserve players who are at best average
ian lenegan'"
But how much cash has changed hands as well? |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 12189 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2007 | 18 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Jun 2017 | May 2017 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="pieeater123"wigan have done a great piece of bussiness here
a GB centre in for 2 reserve players who are at best average
ian lenegan'"
Or on the flip side, warringto have got something for a player who was free to leave in 6 months for free. 2 players + cash seems good business for warrington. TS made Mathers a great fullback, maybe he can do it again? |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| International Chairman | 1999 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Dec 2001 | 23 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Apr 2023 | Mar 2023 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
| Quote ="Saint Simon"Or on the flip side, warringto have got something for a player who was free to leave in 6 months for free. 2 players + cash seems good business for warrington. TS made Mathers a great fullback, maybe he can do it again?'"
Bloody know it all fans of other clubs who know jack, making things up or passing on what someone else has told them without substantiating it themselves......so Gleeson can leave for free in 6 months can he? Have a look at his profile from the Warrington Website.....if in not mistaken that's 18 months not 6.
Also, im sick of Warrington fans saying he doesn't want to be here. If im not mistaken he has had a contract renewal which HE agreed to. Other clubs would have been sniffing round him at that point and he showed faith and took the contract with us. He has consistently created opportunities for his winger. Everyone thought Fa'afili was a donkey yet he scored 20 tries a season for us. That was due to Gleeson and partly Briers.
Thats why i find it baffling that Lowes/Smith have swapped Briers to the left...why break up something that works in attack?
Martin's Details:
Squad Number: 3
Place of Birth: Wigan
Position: Centre
Weight: -
Height: -
Date of Birth: 25/05/1980
Former Clubs: St Helens, Huddersfield Giants
Representative Honours: Great Britain, England
Joined Club: 2004
Contracted Until: November 2010
Corporate Sponsor: Sponsorship Available Sponsorship Available
Martin's Stats: This Season Club Total
Appearances: 6 84
Replacement Apps: - -
Tries: - 33
Goals: - -
Drop Goals: - -
Penalties: - -
Total Points: - 132 |
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Player Coach | 363 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Apr 2009 | 16 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Sep 2016 | Apr 2015 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
The money doesn't bother me
Im actually pleased to see Lenegan put his hand in his pocket
Something he didnt do for wiki/carvell
|
|
|
| Rank | Posts | Team |
| Club Coach | 13916 | No
Team
Selected |
| Joined | Service | Reputation |
| Jun 2005 | 20 years | |
| Online | Last Post | Last Page |
| Feb 2011 | Jul 2010 | LINK |
| Milestone Posts |
|
| Milestone Years |
|
|
| Location |
|
| Signature |
|
TO BE FIXED |
|
|
Does anyone know where the story was regarding Gleeson being allowed to leave for an NRL club?
I'm going to assume this was dependant on a compensation/transfer fee being offered.
I am starting to get a bit peeved that people take "you can leave if an offer comes in" for "the final year of your contract has been cancelled"
|
|
|
|
|
|
ian lenegan
