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| Id scrap the six again and try/no try for next season and bring in the over 40m 2 point drop goal
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| What was wrong with the penalty for slowing the ptb?
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| Quote ="Wires71"What was wrong with the penalty for slowing the ptb?'"
I reckon the idea was that the full penalty slowed the game up ... but as normally happens teams cheat & take advantage of ill thought out laws. I suppose attacking sides might sometimes like six again when they've got a roll on.
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| Quote ="ninearches"I wonder if maybe Ratchford would be better on the right if he is to be a centre ,as some players do have preferred positions. He does certainly look like a square peg in a round hole at the minute.
I have always thought that Ratchford is best when making space for himself & is better in a role of being able to crop up anywhere in attack instead of being shoe horned into a particular slot.'"
He’d be better out the team not right centre. Wrench has to walk into this team when fit.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I reckon the idea was that the full penalty slowed the game up ... but as normally happens teams cheat & take advantage of ill thought out laws. I suppose attacking sides might sometimes like six again when they've got a roll on.'"
In my view awarding another six tackles at the point of infringement is nowhere near as punitive as a penalty which is either a chance of two points or another set of six tackles 30 odd yards down the field. So in effect the rule change has removed a big disincentive to slowing the play the ball therefore, as mentioned, teams are gaming the rule.
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| Quote ="Wires71"In my view awarding another six tackles at the point of infringement is nowhere near as punitive as a penalty which is either a chance of two points or another set of six tackles 30 odd yards down the field. So in effect the rule change has removed a big disincentive to slowing the play the ball therefore, as mentioned, teams are gaming the rule.'"
I’d go further W71 I think it actively encourages holding down early in the tackle count. Teams appear to be coached accordingly…without exception…just some are better at not getting caught …
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"I’d go further W71 I think it actively encourages holding down early in the tackle count. Teams appear to be coached accordingly…without exception…just some are better at not getting caught …'"
You would like to think if us mere fans can see this so can the RFL and do something about it.
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| If we keep the set restart, then why not have the ref march the offending team back 20m instead of 10m?
If the offence is made inside the offending teams half, then it becomes a full penalty, with the option to kick for 2.
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| Just scrap this 6 again and award a penalty..it's either a kick at goal or a kick for territory..simple..
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| The more simplified rules the better . Many a time a six again hooter can't be heard & spectators are left wondering what's going on , a penalty is much easier all round. One fault with the game is the constant rule changes many of which get ignored completely by refs as seasons progress.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"Just scrap this 6 again and award a penalty..it's either a kick at goal or a kick for territory..simple..'"
Whilst I initially liked the 6 again law, despite some inconsistency in its enforcement, it speeded the game up when teams were on a roll. Whereas now, the defending teams are using it cynically on the first to rest, reset and slow the whole game down when it suits.
I tend to agree with you and would favour scrapping it rather than others that would opt for a rethink as simple is best IMO. Making it a penalty IF it's on the first, or in your own half, or if you've got red in your kit is too convoluted and deliberately committing an offence (where we are now), needs to proportionately penalised. .
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Whilst I initially liked the 6 again law, despite some inconsistency in its enforcement, it speeded the game up when teams were on a roll. Whereas now, the defending teams are using it cynically on the first to rest, reset and slow the whole game down when it suits.
I tend to agree with you and would favour scrapping it rather than others that would opt for a rethink as simple is best IMO. Making it a penalty IF it's on the first, or in your own half, or if you've got red in your kit is too convoluted and deliberately committing an offence (where we are now), needs to proportionately penalised. .'"
Exactly. The irony of it being brought in to speed the game up too.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Exactly. The irony of it being brought in to speed the game up too.'"
The big issue is it’s mostly on the 1st tackle so the attacking team as just lost the ball and they have to stop the other team making yardage, once upon a time penalty and kick to touch but now teams use it to reset the defence. It’s got to go.
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| NRL version of penalty if it's in your own 40?
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| Quote ="Douglas Black"NRL version of penalty if it's in your own 40?'"
That’s easy enough to implement.
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| Quote ="karetaker"That’s easy enough to implement.'"
It’s better than what we have, I still wonder if going back to a simple penalty would be better. If you’re attacking 10m out with 2 mins to go and you are 1pt down, the rule still encourages the defending team to slow the play the ball down with little consequence.
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| We are obsessed with slowing the PTB down. The NRL teams are not. Whatever the rules, that difference won't change.
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| Either scrap the 6 again rule or make it mean 6 more tackles on top of the existing remaining count (having to defend 10, 11 or 12 tackles would put a stop to the cynical lying-on at the beginning of sets.
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| Just watched game again & the last ten minutes was impressive.
The Ashton try was a cracker. Slowish ball, Clark (two dummy runners), Drinkwater, Williams (huge dummy run from Curry), Dufty, Ratchford cracking quick pass to Ashton. Worth watching.
Bullock did some very decent stuff.
Watched on Wire TV which had commentary for the first time.
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Quote ="Smiffy27"Just watched game again & the last ten minutes was impressive.
The Ashton try was a cracker. Slowish ball, Clark (two dummy runners), Drinkwater, Williams (huge dummy run from Curry), Dufty, Ratchford cracking quick pass to Ashton. Worth watching.
Bullock did some very decent stuff.
Watched on Wire TV which had commentary for the first time.'"
It was a great try and it can be seen here for those without WireTV.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... highlights
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Quote ="Smiffy27"Just watched game again & the last ten minutes was impressive.
The Ashton try was a cracker. Slowish ball, Clark (two dummy runners), Drinkwater, Williams (huge dummy run from Curry), Dufty, Ratchford cracking quick pass to Ashton. Worth watching.
Bullock did some very decent stuff.
Watched on Wire TV which had commentary for the first time.'"
It was a great try and it can be seen here for those without WireTV.
https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/s ... highlights
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| Nice build up for that.
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| Good to hear about the Wire TV commentary
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| How did Williams pick up 3 MOS points by the way? Don’t think he deserved one.
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| Quote ="ratticusfinch"How did Williams pick up 3 MOS points by the way? Don’t think he deserved one.'"
For me he as been a bit quiet last couple of games. And Philbin was MoM.
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