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| That cas play off game.....
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| Quote ="100% Wire"You're right, beating Saints in the Cup Final was terrible.....'"
It was absolutely brilliant on the day. One of the best weekends I’ve had in years but we have suffered as a result of it absolutely no doubt about that.
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| I may or may not agree LTS, and it may have been the right thing to do, but sacking Price following the Cup win would not have guaranteed success
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I may or may not agree LTS, and it may have been the right thing to do, but sacking Price following the Cup win would not have guaranteed success'"
Nor would us not winning the cup guarantee his sacking either.
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| Quote ="DAG"Nor would us not winning the cup guarantee his sacking either.'"
I agree DAG and that was kind of my point, it's a non binary proposition which works both ways and added to that change doesn't always equate to an end to 'suffering'.
Some might say that as a club this is where we fall behind more ruthless competitors yet others are satisfied that a level of 'success' buys personnel time and good will. There is obviously a tipping point, as there was with Tony Smith and I've no doubt as there will be with Powell
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I may or may not agree LTS, and it may have been the right thing to do, but sacking Price following the Cup win would not have guaranteed success'"
Nothing guarantees success UR but you look now in hindsight it would have been the absolute right thing to do and I feel we've wasted and regressed in the two years since.
I've been watching us for 25+ years plus and I don't think I've ever felt as detached as I feel now watching this team and this coach. It's just soulless.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Nothing guarantees success UR but you look now in hindsight it would have been the absolute right thing to do and I feel we've wasted and regressed in the two years since.
I've been watching us for 25+ years plus and I don't think I've ever felt as detached as I feel now watching this team and this coach. It's just soulless.'"
I can't disagree TBH.
In the same way that I was probably one of the last on here in support of Price's predecessor. IMO your namesake earned the right to a later tipping point as we'd enjoyed some of our best times.
All conjecture and perhaps a little unfair but would you look back IF we lost in the Semi and a couple of inept performances in the League as good thing if it hastens Price's departure, OR would you prefer him to go out with his head held high and a trophy in the cabinet?
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"I can't disagree TBH.
In the same way that I was probably one of the last on here in support of Price's predecessor. IMO your namesake earned the right to a later tipping point as we'd enjoyed some of our best times.
All conjecture and perhaps a little unfair but would you look back IF we lost in the Semi and a couple of inept performances in the League as good thing if it hastens Price's departure, OR would you prefer him to go out with his head held high and a trophy in the cabinet?'"
I would like to see us relieve Price of his duties now and let Briers/Henderson or Anderson have a go. I think if we did we'd have a chance of winning some silverware but as it is now I think we've no chance. Things have just gone too stale and we need to freshen things up. You even look on social media I don't think I've seen as many people wanting the same thing. I've not met/spoke to anyone who wants to keep Price this season and watch 5 drives and a kick for a few more months? And I've said before I've no vendetta against Price (although some think that), he's a good bloke, the players like him, I've no doubt he's trying his best but at the end of the day I just think he's not a very good coach and that's the thing that matters the most.
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| I think that's it LTS, he isn't a very good coach. We've failed pretty embarrassingly in the last 2 play offs, he's done a repetitive end of year summary and we've arguably regressed each year.
He seems ed off when we lose, he looked utterly dejected at the final whistle on Monday but unfortunately for him, he's the one who's under the microscope.
It's nothing personal, i dont know the bloke, but this team is boring to watch and have no idea how to spend a set of six 20 yards out.
He should have gone last year, it's that simple. We have hub cap winner Paul Anderson in the back ground and an ex Head Coach in Henderson who's close to the first team, we were hardly in a desperate position. Look where Watson came from and look at him now.
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| Perhaps I’m playing devils advocate here a little, but while the blame universally seems to lie with Steve Price here, how culpable are the players as well?
Let’s not forget there’s a core of the squad still here that helped Tony Smith on his way with performances not too dissimilar to what we’re still seeing and have seen under Price’s tenure.
Attitude seems a big thing within this group and far too often we turn up with a poor attitude and it transfers into our performance on the field, like it did on Monday.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"It was absolutely brilliant on the day. One of the best weekends I’ve had in years but we have suffered as a result of it absolutely no doubt about that.'"
I travelled with 2 Saints fans to Wembley & the stoney silent return journey was priceless.
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| The demise of Tony Smith was a painful affair ,whether he had genuinely needed a break from coaching or was pushed we will probably never know.
As for the quality of the team ,even the legendary teams of Saints ,Wigan & Leeds are not carrying the same quality in their playing squads as they were once famous for.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"I would like to see us relieve Price of his duties now and let Briers/Henderson or Anderson have a go. I think if we did we'd have a chance of winning some silverware but as it is now I think we've no chance. Things have just gone too stale and we need to freshen things up. You even look on social media I don't think I've seen as many people wanting the same thing. I've not met/spoke to anyone who wants to keep Price this season and watch 5 drives and a kick for a few more months? And I've said before I've no vendetta against Price (although some think that), he's a good bloke, the players like him, I've no doubt he's trying his best but at the end of the day I just think he's not a very good coach and that's the thing that matters the most.'"
I cannot fathom this. Why would you write the same thing again and again ... and again?
Isn't there more to life. Obsessed or what?
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I cannot fathom this. Why would you write the same thing again and again ... and again?
Isn't there more to life. Obsessed or what?'"
Sorry Steve. I was asked a question and I answered it.
It’s a Warrington Wolves forum. What would you rather I wrote about? The Greek Gods? If you don’t like it don’t come on here. Quite simple, even for you.
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| Quote ="ninearches"The demise of Tony Smith was a painful affair ,whether he had genuinely needed a break from coaching or was pushed we will probably never know.
As for the quality of the team ,even the legendary teams of Saints ,Wigan & Leeds are not carrying the same quality in their playing squads as they were once famous for.'"
Regarding Tony Smith and the end of his tenure, I was kind of making the point that a big part of the problem in helping him out the door were the players, their attitude and their on field performances. A lot of these players are still at the club now and performances aren’t too dissimilar to back then either.
Price should’ve gone at the end of last season at the latest for me, but the whole club needs wholesale changes from top to bottom and that includes the playing group too. I just don’t buy this narrative that getting rid of Price now and letting Henderson have a go, will all of a sudden change our fortunes that much.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Sorry Steve. I was asked a question and I answered it.
It’s a Warrington Wolves forum. What would you rather I wrote about? The Greek Gods? If you don’t like it don’t come on here. Quite simple, even for you.'"
I look forward to your comments on the Greek Gods ... bring it on.
I quite enjoy the usual sharing of views on here but I do take issue when there is constant repetition and it detracts from the fun of the forum.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I look forward to your comments on the Greek Gods ... bring it on.
I quite enjoy the usual sharing of views on here but I do take issue when there is constant repetition and it detracts from the fun of the forum.'"
We’ve just been tonked by a team that have won one game all season. Not quite sure what you were expecting to read on here this week.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"We’ve just been tonked by a team that have won one game all season. Not quite sure what you were expecting to read on here this week.'"
I did expect a bit of moaning. I thought you might say that Huddersfield had that performance coming now they've their best players firing. They tore us apart and at half time I thought they might score 40.
We were dreadful. But why come out with the same old repetitive stuff virtually every day. We have got the message ... loud and clear.
I love Wire as much as you.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"I did expect a bit of moaning. I thought you might say that Huddersfield had that performance coming now they've their best players firing. They tore us apart and at half time I thought they might score 40.
We were dreadful. But why come out with the same old repetitive stuff virtually every day. We have got the message ... loud and clear.
I love Wire as much as you.'"
Because the same old repetitive stuff keeps on happening. Your eyes don’t like to you.
I’m entitled to an opinion, just like you. If you don’t like to hear it then that’s your problem Mr Price.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"If you don’t like to hear it then that’s your problem Mr Price.'"
I have been rumbled.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"
It’s a Warrington Wolves forum. What would you rather I wrote about? The Greek Gods? .'"
I'm glad to tell you that I haven't been wasting my time during the two lockdowns and nonattendance at games,. I've put this time to good use, and by some strange coincidence, I've been studying the Greek Gods.
For instance, did any forum members know
The Greek God of being out of your depth is called Karlus
The Greek God of peeing your money up the wall is Simonus
and the Greek God of 5 drives and a kick is Priceus.
You learn something new every day
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| The Greek god of wires trophy cabinet being Sparsicus.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"The Greek god of wires trophy cabinet being Sparsicus.'"
What happened to the Greek god of "we'll win the lot this year"?
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| We totally lost the collision in the first half, and our scrambling cover defence was all over the place, leading to the contest being over before HT.
Second 40 was better, but not good enough to impact on the result. Austin taking the line on to create a very well crafted try was the highlight, but we need more of this, as our attack relied on Giants inability to catch an Austin bomb. We still lack ideas in the opposition 25, which is still the biggest frustration for me.
Trying players in different positions is one thing, but perhaps there were too many in one game, which didn't help our structure in the first 40.
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| I will watch the Giants with great interest with their full squad firing. We haven't been run as ragged as that for a while and we weren't short of players who have done the business before.
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