Cracking game, great entertainment, a credit to both teams in those conditions.

Correct, I am sick of seeing poor defensive reads penalised as obstruction.

I wouldn't say that. Three consecutive penalties in our 10m was more than generous.

Penalties that quick in succession undermine play of the team receiving them. One penalty a set of six is good, it continues momentum. To have a set disrupted by so many penalties hinders momentum. So no, it wasn't generous.

Three consecutive penalties on our line. 13-12 doesn't mean squat, where and when, ie; middle of the field with twenty seconds to go. Face it; for whatever reason Richie has a soft spot for you.

I would have thought it would be more disruptive to the defending team. You are set on your line, readying yourselves, peep, faces of bemusement. And so-on and so-forth. Now you have in your mind you are trying to focus on the attacking team, whilst wondering if the ref will blow up. The opposition are constantly starting from the first tackle, afforded the opportunity to try a differing starting set. I fail to see how it is disruptive, no momentum is lost as the attack is as far up the field as possible where the defence is having to amass further, unwanted, tackles.

Completely agree. SaintsFan is talking nonsense on this one. I have never heard any attacking team complain about getting a penalty!

On the red button after the match Simmons complained that Saints' penalties weren't as good as the ones Warrington were given.

One penalty - great. A series of them in quick succession allows no momentum in attack.

If so, he is a balloon.

It is far more demoalising to the defence to know that the tackle you have just scrambled to complete on your line now counts for nothing. If that happens two and three times on the bounce it can be extremely frustrating. The attack have lost nothing and have actually wasted more of the opposition's energy.

That doesn't change the fact that repeated stops interrupt momentum. That is so very obvious.

So obvious that you are the only person i have ever heard moan about receiving penalties. Awesome.

That is utterly ridiculous. Anyone who has ever played any rugby will know that it is incredibly draining to defend repeat sets and they inevitably lead to conceding points.

hodgson's try was slightly dubious but hodgson should have been racing 90 metres to the try line in the first half after silverwood decided too give a scrum after we hadnt even knocked on so we will call that quits. in terms of the game what an atmosphere last night i cant remember it being that loud for quite a long time at the HJ. And what a game too be a part of , reminded me of the wigan home game from last season didnt really deserve too be a loser but thankfully this time we came out on the winning side

also had we have gone 24 - 0 up so early on i hate too think what the score might have been...

Except you weren't having to defend repeated sets. The three consecutive penalties that were referred to did not come at the end of three completed sets. That's my point. We couldn't get a set going in attack because of those penalties. At least that was my memory of it at the match. I haven't watched the game back yet.

Beaten fair and Square imo, no excuse's get on with your life now!

You should have been in the kitchen anyway, so your point is even more invalid

Williams' wasn't a try and neither was Hodgsons. We break the salary cap by giving away Take That tickets and we buy all our success by buying all the best young talent available. We never get done by the disciplinary panel.

We are the Wire, we'll do what we want.

I thought Williams' was a try to be honest Mark. The ball cleary went backwards under his legs. Agree with the Hodgson one.

I was taking the p*ss. They were both tries.

Any set that is put back to zero is a repeated set. Gives a fresh set of six tackles. No way is that not an advantage.

Doh.

What a game! Best atmosphere for a long time. Credit to Saints i don't think anyone else could have come back like that. Imagine if we had gone 22-0 up the score could have got embarrasing. Thought Scott Moore and Pulutua changed the game for them. On our side credit to Blythe he was excellant after coming on made some crucial tackles.

same here, never seen it before. along with scoring a try without ever having possesion a la m. monagham, very strange day all round.