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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"not at all you lot see nothing wrong with your team picking up players and holding them horizontal and slamming them on their backs, fair play its just about legal I suppose and this is what happened to Westwood.
Normally he would have taken them all day. What he wasnt having was some Rat faced crying bitch putting his head and elbows into his face in a "look at me I'm Rat boy and i've just smashed you" manner...
in short if you cant push the boundaries of the rules in a game you'll be ing in the wind all season'"
If there was a spear tackle by wigan in that game, by all means ban the offenders for a long time, but as far as I sawthere was nothing remotely like a spear.
Again, If you really think that wire have never slammed a player into the floor hard then you are deluded. Or do you softly place them on the floor?
Without re watching the game I remember a number of 'facials' dished out by wire players - but I suppose because thjey weren't done by an annoying player then they are ok?
The main feeling I get from this thread is that because you think a player is like 'ratboy' then it's ok to punch him.....
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| Quote ="Big Steve"If there was a spear tackle by wigan in that game, by all means ban the offenders for a long time, but as far as I sawthere was nothing remotely like a spear.
Again, If you really think that wire have never slammed a player into the floor hard then you are deluded. Or do you softly place them on the floor?
Without re watching the game I remember a number of 'facials' dished out by wire players - but I suppose because thjey weren't done by an annoying player then they are ok?
The main feeling I get from this thread is that because you think a player is like 'ratboy' then it's ok to punch him.....'"
again, another one who hasn't rewatched the game without their cherry and white tinted specs on, just watch it again.
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"again, another one who hasn't rewatched the game without their cherry and white tinted specs on, just watch it again.'"
What exactly am I supposed to be looking for?
From what i can make out it seems to be;
A) Wigan players not actually doing anything wrong but 'pushing boundaries' which actually sounds like a good thing.
B) looking like ratboy?
While on the other hand warrington it seems were playing a game if tic rugby.
I'm not sure why you are all getting youselves worked up into a frenzy - or is it your pack mentality?
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| Quote ="Big Steve"What exactly am I supposed to be looking for?
From what i can make out it seems to be;
A) Wigan players not actually doing anything wrong but 'pushing boundaries' which actually sounds like a good thing.
B) looking like ratboy?
While on the other hand warrington it seems were playing a game if tic rugby.
I'm not sure why you are all getting youselves worked up into a frenzy - or is it your pack mentality?'"
lets not forget it was your fans moaning about the rough nature of the exchange between westwood and sam. the same fans who have been asking all week for more protection for sam. so do me a favour....
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| best pack in the league mentality. Tell you whats been good bout beating the other top teams. Every week you seem to get 1 particular fan who's took it worse than the others and goes on all forums repeating the same teary rants.
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"best pack in the league mentality. Tell you whats been good bout beating the other top teams. Every week you seem to get 1 particular fan who's took it worse than the others and goes on all forums repeating the same teary rants.'"
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| Quote ="THEOriginalWire"you seem to be pretty interested in this subject, yet neglect to think about why joel and sam got banned. For worse offences than ben's last night. I would love to see ben assault sam, but last night was nothing like it.'"
Ah ok, I see your position now. It's wrong when a Wigan player commits an offence and they should be punished, but it's acceptable when a Warrington player commits an offence and it's something you positively condone. Gotcha.
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| Quote ="Teessidewire"With the comments that you've put on here and on The Virtual Terrace I'm starting to think that you didn't even watch the game last night. When I say that Tomkins is 'winding up' players, I should have said that he was doing it by using foul play. Everyone else appears to have understood this apart from you. If he wasn't using foul play then why did he get penalised (I think I already know your answer to that one)? Suggest that you use your noggin and admit you were beaten fair and square.'"
That's just a reiteration of your earlier point isn't it? Retalisation should not be punished by the RFL.
If Tomkins was using foul play then he should be penalised, [ujust like any player[/u. I'm not the type of fan to say foul play should be condoned just because it's one of our players (hint hint). He was obviously penalised for holding Westwood down, but then Westwood committed a foul of his own-- a more serious one at that. Even if the original penalty stayed with Warrington, Westwood should have been warned or binned. The point remains that retaliating to being held down--or any other sort of winding up, foul or not--with a punch should not go unpunished.
Seriously, if you were a fan of my team going on about how foul play is ok when committed by our players I'd be embarrassed.
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| Quote ="Big Steve"If there was a spear tackle by wigan in that game, by all means ban the offenders for a long time, but as far as I sawthere was nothing remotely like a spear.
Again, If you really think that wire have never slammed a player into the floor hard then you are deluded. Or do you softly place them on the floor?
Without re watching the game I remember a number of 'facials' dished out by wire players - but I suppose because thjey weren't done by an annoying player then they are ok?
The main feeling I get from this thread is that because you think a player is like 'ratboy' then it's ok to punch him.....'"
And this is what's great about Wigan now. Under madge with his ' push the boundaries of the rules ' someone is always going to push them too far.
For a considerable time now that's been Sam Tomkins. if Tomkins should be vexed with anyone its not Westwood, its Super coach Maguire, for encouraging his house tactics sticking him at full back and in general not treating the kid right.
You can't tell me His on field niggle his high emotions (crying after a losss) and his all round body language looks good ,and is helping his game?
The sooner he is coached by a coach like Tony Smith for example the better.
In all honesty I felt sorry for the lad at one stage last night. (Only at one stage mind most of the time i was laughing uncontrollably)
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| Quote ="So Grose but So Good"He was at home cuddling his Sam Tomkins doll
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Haven't we had that one already? The response is "I wasn't cuddling it it was trapping my arm." Come on, keep up and think of something original.
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| y Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"
Seriously, if you were a fan of my team going on about how foul play is ok when committed by our players I'd be embarrassed.'"
That statement is a direct insult to Michael Maguires coaching manual. And especially the section "foul play - how to do it on the sly"
I fear Westwoods actions hurt Wigan more than Sam Tomkins. And all those teams that want to play rugby league football first and foremost will not be sitting back waiting for a ref to blow up 50minutes into a game.
Look on the bright side you may have to resort to playing rugby now.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"And this is what's great about Wigan now. Under madge with his ' push the boundaries of the rules ' someone is always going to push them too far.'"
Then it's for the officials to deal with. Christ, you win and you still whinge for days on end about how everyone deserves to be fouled cos they were picking on Warrington players, slamming them on the floor of all things! Man up for God's sake!
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Then it's for the officials to deal with. Christ, you win and you still whinge for days on end about how everyone deserves to be fouled cos they were picking on Warrington players, slamming them on the floor of all things! Man up for God's sake!
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I blame the ref for gifting us victory in the way he did.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"yThat statement is a direct insult to Michael Maguires coaching manual. And especially the section "foul play - how to do it on the sly"
I fear Westwoods actions hurt Wigan more than Sam Tomkins. And all those teams that want to play rugby league football first and foremost will not be sitting back waiting for a ref to blow up 50minutes into a game.
Look on the bright side you may have to resort to playing rugby now.'"
As opposed to resorting to out and out thuggery which you condone right there.
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| and the most over used emoticon this week by wigan fans is
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| Quote ="Fantastic Mr Cat"and the most over used emoticon this week by wigan fans is
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Loving your contributions so far.
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| Facts, stats, ref blunders etc etc
The only two that interest me are
Wigan 6 - 24 Warrington
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2 points to us
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"As opposed to resorting to out and out thuggery which you condone right there.
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What the 'on his back Ben Westwwod 'did to the 'kneeling on top of him Sam Tomkins' Isn't out and out thuggery is it .......?
A couple of bitch slaps never hurt anyone (well apart from stuart fielden).
One day you could gives us your views on thuggery if say your hooker smashes the jaw of an opposing scrum half.... imagine if it was a saints player too.....anyway that's for another day.
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"Loving your contributions so far.
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loving yours as well..heard better off my 4 year old son
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"What the 'on his back Ben Westwwod 'did to the 'kneeling on top of him Sam Tomkins' Isn't out and out thuggery is it .......?'"
Punching someone? Er, yes.
Quote A couple of bitch slaps never hurt anyone (well apart from stuart fielden).
One day you could gives us your views on thuggery if say your hooker smashes the jaw of an opposing scrum half.... imagine if it was a saints player too.....anyway that's for another day.'"
You'll always find that my posts on such matters are consistent. But you keep on, the picture your painting is fantastic. How lucky Warrington are to have these fans.
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| Quote ="sir adrian morley"loving yours as well..heard better off my 4 year old son'"
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"You're overflowing with wit today aren't you?'"
yep..take it you aint got over fridays thrahing then
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| Quote ="TheElectricGlidingWarrior"I am very bitter, and am going to act like Sam Tomkins and cry and stomp my feet until i get my way'"
Bit more accurate.
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| Quote ="Who are ya!!"Bit more accurate.'"
Ha ha, well done you! Why don't you do another that has me saying I smell or something? It's about as sophisticated a retort as I can expect on this board I suppose.
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