Cunningham and Roby are two completely different players and without the contrast in their play arguably would not be rated as highly as they are within the same team. With JC a MH we have a similar contrast and that is good for the team but JC gives more to the overall team structure than MH does.

Look at the game against Hull last week. When JC wasn't on and MH was and Briers and Monas were at half back we lacked structure and direction. JC came on whilst MH was on the pitch and the whole team looked more structured and defensively sound. This is not down to his skills as an out and out rugby league player but as the right player for our team. His communication and organisational skills are top notch and that is what our team needs at this time.

Warrington are a better team with him on the pitch. If we were Saints or another team maybe that wouldn't be so but we're not.

You show me where I've harked back to anything or anywhere, not my style, you know that. Neither do I proclaim to be whiter than white on here, I've never been a 'taking my ball home' type, you know that better than most. I'm also not daft, there's a few folk on here, who've an axe to grind with certain individuals & the actions of certain individuals from times gone by (nothing to do with me, I must add), and are using the forum as a way of 'settling a score' so to speak, but I think it's to the detriment of the place, overall. The way folk are like 'tag-teaming' on posts and stuff, just making me cringe that's all.

So what do you think to 100% effort Micky Higham and top underrated defender Clarke ? [size=59to get us back to a discussion even if it does have a rather unfortunate title[/size

My thoughts echo those of the normal folk, who can see the huge differences between the two. I'd like to think that I can appreciate the good qualities that they both have & what they bring to the side. I'm happier now that we have Clarke starting with Higham from the bench, as oppose to the other way, which we trialed.

Clarke has a good rugby brain, he's very good at knowing when to slow the game down, and I like the calmness of him. He's also good got a good eye for a pass, as shown with his match winning try assist last week. To call him underrated is somewhat of a cliche, but I truly believe that he is. Every team has to have sort of 'nuts & bolts', that's what he is for us, he's our steady if unspectacular hooker.

That was a cracking pass, that move was what he/we were excelling at in 05 when clarke first started switching to loose and being the trailing runner behind swann and gleeson.

my mate works with andy coleys dad dennis and he said that andy said pies are gonna smash us

No pal, you've not harked back (sorry if you thought that was aimed at you), my point was aimed against some who pursue a consistent antipathy towards certain members whose recent contribution when compared in their eyes against that of the historic causes them displeasure. You know who I mean when I say that (TANCW for one - who has been strangely quiet on this point, but often chastising previously)

I agree there is bickering, score settling, detritus, malaise, bumkin and general gashness on here. I would prefer it wasn't like that to be honest. But I recognise when a forum opens itself up to the public, and seeks advertising revenue on the back of it, it can only be expected. Like most lucent thinkers say, if you don't like the forum or AUP don't come on here. It's blunt but beautifully apt. The forum ain't owned by anyone, even if they were first on. That's my point.

I suggest those who have had enough of this forum create their very own new one with strict membership criteria. It would remove alot of the conflict.

So, no way a dig at you JWP, more a wider point.

Well why not? I am fair and understand the game and there has been marked difference in his application since that incident at Harlequins.

To be honest the same goes for the majority of the players. There is only one who really annoyed me last week but that was not through lack of effort just a lack of concentration and possibly core skills.

Fair point that Mark well said. Nearly all of the squad now are far more spirited and organised then we have been in a long time. The players are showing better attitude, togetherness and willingness to defend and win matches then there has been in recent times.

We'll have our one-trick-Mick and Richie Mathers, thanks. Even if he didn't want to leave, he knows he's moved onto better things now

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