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| those rules are just a guideline, you don't have to follow them to the letter
ok you might get a slap on the wrist from the RFL and a couple of points deduction but there's no international financial regulator going to come down on the club if it breaches them
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"i don't consider mathers or goulding long term gain.'"
I assume it's been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but if anyone can get the best out of Mathers and Goulding, it would be Tony Smith. IMO, one of his biggest strengths as a coach is hiding players' weakness and exposing their strengths.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"I assume it's been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but if anyone can get the best out of Mathers and Goulding, it would be Tony Smith. IMO, one of his biggest strengths as a coach is hiding players' weakness and exposing their strengths.'"
Problem is, I don't think Mathers has any strengths
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"Problem is, I don't think Mathers has any strengths'"
Are you basing this judgement however, on his performances for Leeds - under Tony Smith - or his injury blighted stint in Ockerland, or perhaps his time at Wigan?
Let's be fair to the lad, that club has become a bit of a career graveyard for mid-top end SL players in the recent years, such as Orr, Moran, even Godwin and Higham to some extent.
I feel he has a lot of useful strengths, especially his role in the Leeds attacking line, which I felt went underrated; he was often taking over the first/second reciever role when one of the holy trinity of Burrow-Sinfield-McGuire were caught in possession and/or out of position.
Plus, any cash from the deal could be put to bring in Shenton, or, failing that, to be pumped firther into the youth academy and perhaps in a few years, we'll see the likes of our own Mendieka (sp?) banging on the door of the England squad.
(NB: I only use Mendieka's name as purely an example, I'm not cherry picking him out for messiah-like status)
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| Quote ="SEB"Whole salary.'"
Hi, I have had a look at the rules and can't see where this is explicitly stated.
Can you point me to the right clause?
I read if a player gets paid off then it is the compensation that becomes his salary cap value and that this is spread over the duration of his (ex)contract with a club. So his old salary cap value is gone.
So if Wigan paid Mathers off with £1 then that is his salary cap vale for the remainder of his contract. If that were two years it would be 50p a year!
Seems odd to me but there you go.
The interesting thing is with a transfer the player won't normally get a pay off from his old club. So are you suggesting if Gleeson left he would not incur any salary cap liability whatsoever to Wire this season?
If so where is this stated the regulations?
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| Mathers is a very simple equation for me:-
If it's the Mathers from Leeds, I'd take him like a shot.
If it's the Mathers from Wigan, I'd rather not bother and keep Riley at FB.
If anyone is going to get the best out of him, surely its TS.
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| I'd still like to know who the first choice centres are going to be for us if Gleeson does do one.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"I'd still like to know who the first choice centres are going to be for us if Gleeson does do one.'"
A query of mine too.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"I'd still like to know who the first choice centres are going to be for us if Gleeson does do one.'"
Two of Grix/King/Johnson
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| can we presume this aint happening?
deadline was 5pm for this weekend i think?
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| I'm going to wait until the team is announced tomorrow before I start taking the Michael
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"I'm going to wait until the team is announced tomorrow before I start taking the Michael'"
what difference will the squad make? you mean if hes on the bench? we shoul play him and get him cup tied!
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"I'm going to wait until the team is announced tomorrow before I start taking the Michael'"
Very sensible Cockers. If it has been sorted, it's obviously pretty late in the day so I'd imagine they're busy tying up loose ends rather than worrying about press releases.
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| [url=http://viewtopic.php?t=402805&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=120I will take the Michael out of post 10 on here though[/url
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| Quote ="Ian [77"Very sensible Cockers. If it has been sorted, it's obviously pretty late in the day so I'd imagine they're busy tying up loose ends rather than worrying about press releases.'"
I am of the opinion that if the deal went through Wigan would have blazed it all over their Web Site (Should have checked prior to this). I hope this is a long April fool and we can get back to normality from the morning.
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| spoke to a player earlier he said he had already gone just arguing over money, and he as asked to leave a couple times he wasnt to impressed with mathers but looking forward to the other lad he also stated that the offer was to good to turn down
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| Quote ="windy corner"spoke to a player earlier he said he had already gone just arguing over money, and he as asked to leave a couple times he wasnt to impressed with mathers but looking forward to the other lad he also stated that the offer was to good to turn down'"
Sorry to bother you, but what is this all about?
Who wasn't impressed with Mathers?
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| Quote ="wolves4life"what difference will the squad make? you mean if hes on the bench? we shoul play him and get him cup tied!'"
If he plays tomorrow, it means he couldn't have been registered at Wigan
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"If he plays tomorrow, it means he couldn't have been registered at Wigan'"
Take it from me - he won't play tomorrow
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"Two of Grix/King/Johnson'"
What about Bridge ?
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| Quote ="~ No1 Saints Fan ~"What about Bridge ?'"
He'll have more of a chance if Gleeson does go, I don't think he will be a first choice centre though
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