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| well it looks like the rumours were true.
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| Ridiculous decision to leave out Myler IMO
How can you possibly choose Higham over Myler
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| Quote ="sean11evo11"Ridiculous decision to leave out Myler IMO
How can you possibly choose Higham over Myler'"
Some of us might disagree but whatever TS decides is good enough for me. Monas and Clarke are more than capable at half back.
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| Means we need Wood and Solomona to come on and be the ones to change the game if needed, I don't have much faith in Higham if the chips are down.
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| Quote ="Wire_85" I don't have much faith in Higham if the chips are down.'"
He can duck down for a try!
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| Gutted for Myler
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| Seems to a ludicrous decision to me, but then again I haven't seen much of you this season. Tony Smith will no doubt know what he's doing as he's a quality coach, but Higham is just plain crap imo. Myler always looks lively when i've seen him, and moving Monas from 9 doesn't seem to make sense, nor does Clarke to 7 if Monas stays at 9.
Intruiging anyway.
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| Worried that if we lose, this decision may disrupt the feel good attitude that's at the club.
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| Don't mention it.
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| HMMMmmmm
interesting where does Myler go now.....this smacks of Kevin Penny troubles to me.....every man and his dog will be saying Myler Cant defend just like they did with Penny whether its true or not.
I havent Seen anything from Myler to suggest he is suspect in defence, on the contrary Ive been quite impressed with it. its his organisational skills that have been below par for me.
So what does he do now??? he's on a good wedge yet not deemed good enough for our biggest game of the season. Same With Penny not good enough to play and on a good salary. Do we persevere with him when we havent done with Penny.
how much Damage Has been done by Tony smith repeating the claims that Myler is targeted in games ??
or does Myler do what Briers did when he was dropped from Saints final team all those years ago......and get pee'd off and feck off to another club.... Steve Molloy did it too when Johno dropped him for Neil harmon in 1990.
I still havent forgot Watching Monaghan perform like dog pooh when he tried to play scrum half...yet we go into a massive final dropping a scrum half for a hooker.....and in fact going into the game with three hookers...... odd very very odd.
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"HMMMmmmm
interesting where does Myler go now.....this smacks of Kevin Penny troubles to me.....every man and his dog will be saying Myler Cant defend just like they did with Penny whether its true or not.
I havent Seen anything from Myler to suggest he is suspect in defence, on the contrary Ive been quite impressed with it. its his organisational skills that have been below par for me.
So what does he do now??? he's on a good wedge yet not deemed good enough for our biggest game of the season. Same With Penny not good enough to play and on a good salary. Do we persevere with him when we havent done with Penny.
how much Damage Has been done by Tony smith repeating the claims that Myler is targeted in games ??
or does Myler do what Briers did when he was dropped from Saints final team all those years ago......and get pee'd off and feck off to another club.... Steve Molloy did it too when Johno dropped him for Neil harmon in 1990.
I still havent forgot Watching Monaghan perform like dog pooh when he tried to play scrum half...yet we go into a massive final dropping a scrum half for a hooker.....and in fact going into the game with three hookers...... odd very very odd.'"
I agree with most of that Bick, why move your most potent threat around the ruck into a position where he doesn't look comfortable. Hooker is so important these days and world class hookers are not easy find as most are under contract, we have one but were shifting him to scrum half which doesn't make sense.
Richie Myler's defence is no worse than a lot of scrum halves in SL, Sean Long never had the best defence in the world but it didn't do saints any harm. In fact ive seen Richie Myler do some great cover tackles this year.
Tony Smith is obviously a big fan of Jon Clarke's, he will have known how devestated he will have been last year so to drop him this year would have been unthinkable, its just i feel a touch of sentiment in his selection as i can't see a valid reason to drop Myler which then meant we would have to move a world class hooker into a position which doesn't look natural to him.
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| I think the next 12 months could well be the defining ones in richie mylers career.
Does he spit his dummy out or does he take it on the chin and work harder than he ever has done before?
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| Quote ="Rob Wire"I agree with most of that Bick, why move your most potent threat around the ruck into a position where he doesn't look comfortable. Hooker is so important these days and world class hookers are not easy find as most are under contract, we have one but were shifting him to scrum half which doesn't make sense.
Richie Myler's defence is no worse than a lot of scrum halves in SL, Sean Long never had the best defence in the world but it didn't do saints any harm. In fact ive seen Richie Myler do some great cover tackles this year.
Tony Smith is obviously a big fan of Jon Clarke's, he will have known how devestated he will have been last year so to drop him this year would have been unthinkable, its just i feel a touch of sentiment in his selection as i can't see a valid reason to drop Myler which then meant we would have to move a world class hooker into a position which doesn't look natural to him.'"
But this is it though he looked very comfortable in the semi.
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| Quote ="Wire_85"But this is it though he looked very comfortable in the semi.'"
Point out the opposition again in that semi final your referring too ? Is it the side thats currently bottom of SL and have looked woeful this year including 2 recent pastings by us and Leeds ?
We could have played Alex Murphy at scrum half and would have still beat them.
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| Am not saying its right or wrong am saying its that game which he has based this idea on.
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| Can't believe that Richie is not playing tomorrow, I really truly can't believe it.
Mr Smith chased Richie and brought him to the club and then not to play him in the biggest game of the season .............
Sorry but for me this is a mistake.
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| Similar disappointments have happened to Sinfield and McGuire at Leeds when they were about the same age.
I'm sure they used it as a motivation going forward. I think McGuire scored 38 tries the following season - money now on Myler to be top scorer next year.
It must be devestating for Richie at the moment but I'm sure he will have the opportunity again in the not too distant future.
Lets not forget Mike Cooper has missed out as well despite his excellent recent form.
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| Seems I'm in the minority on here but I think Smith has got a terribly difficult decision correct.
Myler is already a very good player with years of improvement still ahead of him, but I have yet to see him display enough composure and correct decision-making when under pressure. Combine that with his organisational skills not yet being that of a top class half-back and I completely understand why this choice has been made.
I don't believe it's any deficiency in Myler's defensive technique that's contributed significantly to this. I'm far more worried about Senior running against Briers than I was about Delaney against Myler.
Expect to see Clarke at half-back more than Monaghan.
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| Well, I got that completely wrong.
Regardless of the result tomorrow, I hope there's no knee jerking e.g. if we lose; Smith blew it, or, if we win; end of Myler's career.
One thing is absolutely certain; we're going to find out very soon just how serious this 'team' ethic is. If that means anything at all, win or lose tomorrow, how the players react to it in the coming weeks is going to be very revealing. I should say that the fact that I'm unsure about the call is no reflection on the players who got the nod, I'm sure they'll do us proud.
I would play Myler but what do I know, less than Smith, that's for sure. Hope I'm wrong again.
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| You have got to hand it to Mr Smith he is not afraid to make a decison which he feels is correct.
When Mr Smith first came here wasn't Lee Breirs dropped and rumours that he would be moving on, and then we sold Martin Gleeson.
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| Very surprised by this. Personally I think you look a much better team with Monas at 9. From what i've seen of the 3 players Myler would be in my team before both Clarke and Higham aswell, cant understand this decision & it could end up costing you...
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| He could just stay in his hotel room and sulk but fair play to him he's not and he's taking it all in with the other players.
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| Forget in TS we trust, this is his biggest mistake so far, i don't think it's the right call.
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| It will come off. Che is GOD.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Forget in TS we trust, this is his biggest mistake so far, i don't think it's the right call.'"
Have to wait and see.
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