we need to get this out of the way. not once have we ever called ourself "ultras" and would never want to be referred to as ultras, we just go to watch warrington in every game and support the team. if we were older youd just call us the "barmy army", as for the singing insulting songs but im sorry every brand of fans has sung insulting songs about teams for years and if your really going to complain about singing "castlefords a sh***ole i wanna go home" then you need to man up and also realise that for example last season at wigan i have clear memories at pretty much 2000 fans singing that. plus the old songs that dont get sung anymore like that you look in the dustbin for something to eat...... its all harmless banter and people used to be able to take it on the chin until a few people started crying about it on here.

Woah woah woah... since when am i one of them? I know the people you are talking about, they stand in the same sort of area at the HJ, i don't know who any of them are but if they get a song going I'll more than likely join in. unless its a hate song against other teams and such. I don't agree with that its not needed (unless the team is the ref

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Nor am I a teenager, I am an adult. I'm just not highly strung and find the darts song funny. I don't really see anything wrong with that. Instead of telling us to grow up why don't the people on here stop moaning, cheer up and just go with it. You never know, you might just have fun. Not too much fun mind.. Lets not get too giddy

Rawzy is completely right by the way

Your posts on the other thread about the flare though... completely wrong I'm afraid

explain? i dont see how i have condoned it at all i just dont like the fact that all people around him are being branded as "disgraces to the club" as i saw on twitter when we actually havent done anything wrong.

Shop them or you're just as bad.

Spot on rawly!

This.

What was that film in the late eighties with Jodie Foster in? Some on here need to watch it.

You haven't done anything right though Rawzy, have you heard of guilty by association?

If you say nothing, you're saying the behaviour is ok.

there was more than just our group in the end so what your saying is also saying that the people who joined in with our group even families who "havent done anything right" are in the wrong.

The Accused that was the film, thanks for jogging my memory. Based on a true story, and the men who stood by and let it happen had a long time to ponder if doing nothing was the right thing in jail.

If a bloke and his mate go out, one drags a woman down an alley and assaults her while his mate stands next to him and does nothing, is that ok, he's done nothing wrong, right?

Yes, if they knowingly allow an offense to occur, or fail to report one after it has been committed, then yes they are as guilty as the person that committed it.

It would appear to me that you knew before and after the event who this individual is and that he was going to set one off today. You are lucky that nothing serious happened because in all of Warrington’s eyes and more importantly the polices’ you would have been equally culpable.

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Didn't see many people complaining about 'the kids/chavs' after this match...

The main problem with the two songs you mention there isn't that they're offensive, it's that they're really REALLY sh*te. As is pretty much everything else your group do.

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What does that link of manchester have to do with anything being said on here.

I have to say this makes sorry reading. Fully grown men having a go at kids for being kids, whilst hiding behind RL Fans anonymity. Yes they can get annoying at times, I'm not a fan of this 'x is a ****hole' malarkey for example. But there's much bigger things happening in life, there's no need to stress about it.

There's fully grown men who can be just as (if not more) annoying and idiotic- look at the pillock who tried to punch Ganson in September, arguably that did the club more harm than the [equally idiotic smoke thing I saw yesterday. Fans who do nothing but scream at the ref drive me mad, but we have all paid the same to get in and what you do is your prerogative. Sing, dance, shout at the ref, play on your phone, fill in the programme, whatever just go, enjoy the greatest game of all and try to be mature enough to let little things wind you up.

At the moment to me it just looks like a gang who want to copy wigan. And if you want to copy wigan then you should be ashamed.

WE WOULD NEVER COPY WIGAN!!!!! why would we want to be a bunch of inbreds?

Where's the need to refer to them as inbreds? thats just needless and immature.

Sorry, that was a bit Immature i know but i am getting a bit p***** off with these mindless idiots who think they know everything about us when in actual fact they have us completely miss understood.

Well, i have to say you (the royal you) aren't putting your case over very well on here this morning, might i suggest you leave it alone now, to prevent anymore sniping from both sides.

Before i leave this thread alone i would like to remind people about Salford. 10 minutes to go when most of you were driving home in your cars, who were the ones in the stand clapping the team in. Us lots because unlike most of you on here we support our team through thick and thin just like when we were S***. We have never called our selves ultras and never will.

No issue with drums, as I've stated before i'm neither here nor there with them.
Singing songs about x place being a s--thole i don't have a problem with.
People texting, or doing the Poznan doesn't bother me

What bothers me are people who intimidate others, people who fight and people who generally bring a bad name to the club.

Flares are banned from all stadium in this country, so this person is bringing OUR fans a bad rap, whether Dropkick and his twisted fans spirituality and warped sense of honour agrees i don't care. It's not grassing to shop these people, it's preserving our good name and reputation i'm more concerned with.