If this is given that's a great try from Inglis.

No try. Obstruction. That was the kind of full-back play we're missing from old Bert :'(.

Inglis has to be the best Aussie outside back (I know he covers fb too, not so good at that though)since Mal Menenga, even if he didn't score

Hall my mom

He should of passed to Hall in the first half no doubt about that. I hope it doesn't come back to bite us.

That was a ploy from Inglis to confuse by standing in his play the ball.
Cronk and Hunt worked it.

I'm amazed at the two penalties Australia got for interference, considering the mugging they've been doing in the tackles prior on us

ffs

If England lose this, we might as well give up any prospect of beating the aussies. The second half performance has been abject and we've allowed the most average aussie team I've seen all my life to get back into, take control and lead the game.

And the responsibility of that lies squarely with the coach, but no suprise there.

We have to swap Hodgson for Clark
and
Swap anyone with Joel Tompkins.

Cronk showing Smith a master class in kicking.

If this is given we have got out of jail big time.

That is theft

If that was Greg inglis finger on that ball, it would have been awarded

I am actually at loss as to how that was not given. Would have been the luckiest try I've ever seen, but Hall played for the ball and he had his fingers on the ball in the in goal area - that's a try...

It REALLY irks me that they would go to the video ref to make use of the slow motion technology and then make a decision based on it at full speed...

The downward pressure rule has already become farcical and if that had been given we might as well take it out of the rules. There is no way on gods earth he got downward pressure on that, and only the most one-eyed Englishman would say he did.

But it should have been irrelevant. England were tactically abysmal in the second half and all our key players went AWOL.

We are out imo.
No way will we be at NZ after that game and them having a day extra rest.

Well played the England lads, but McNamara get a taxi, out thought by a coach with no big ammunition.
Why take Clark off the goon?

His finger is bent on the ball, it's a try.

Anyone but an Aussie gives that.

Blatant cheating.

That was a try. The replay clearly showed that. Downward pressure applied. We need to play for 80 mins next week or the kiwis will do the same as what's happened today.
Elliott Whitehead for Joel Tomkins surely. I'd go with Joe Burgess instead of charnley as well. Charnley offers nothing at this level. Hall shows that a world class winger can create something out of nothing.

He had his finger on the ball in the in goal area. Either he played for the ball and touched it in the in goal - try, or he didn't play for it and knocked it out after Inglis had knocked it back- drop out.

They gave no try AND 20m restart.

No not drop out.
It's either a try or a knock on from Hall.
They called it as a knock on effectively.

I didn't think Smiths kicking game was that bad. Just didn't have enough possession and field position in the 2nd half

Regardless of whether it was a try or not, England failed to beat a THIRD string Australia side. That's what annoys me.

X2

As they say in the NRL.

"Skin on ball on grass, its a try".

People talking about control, it doesn't matter as long as its skin on ball on grass with downward pressure even from a pinky. If that would have been Inglis it would have been a try, he would have meant it and he's a genius for being able to score tries like that but with all due respect this ref wasn't as biased as usual but he didn't do us many favours, the flip penalty before the Hunt try was a load of cack and when Burgess knocked on/had it stripped they didn't show a replay, hmmmm???!!!

Can you hear that noise? It's the excuses barrel being scraped. Blame the ref, the Hall "try", the awful Aussie kit whatever, you're just deluding yourselves.

We had the players to beat them, we played well enough in the first half but we didn't show up in the second - I don't know what our "coach" said at half-time, but the second half tactics were non-existent. It was like being back in the Anderson-Plange era.

Tactically naive, a coach who selects a squad then plays the same 19 every match, makes substitutions by numbers and when the tide turns sits there like Nero with a laptop instead of a fiddle.

This.