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| Quote ="behind the stick"Warrington changed the Hudds fixture to a Friday the week before the Widnes game at easter, the widnes game at the end of the season which is now a Thursday was originally a friday as the cup final is the week after. That tells you all you need to know about whether coaches think players need as much time as possible to prepare for games.'"
Can the home team change the fixture unilaterally or do they require the agreement of the away team?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"Can the home team change the fixture unilaterally or do they require the agreement of the away team?'"
I think during the season you require both teams to agree to a change, or if requested by Sky of course, then you'd probably need a damn good reason not to play the game.
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| Quote ="behind the stick"I think during the season you require both teams to agree to a change, or if requested by Sky of course, then you'd probably need a damn good reason not to play the game.'"
The only time Ive ever heard of a game not being changed when SKY asked was a game between us and Hull either last season or the season before. Might have been Cheshire Constabulary who had a say in that one.
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"If Championship players can do it without any issue so can SL players!!!'"
No disrespect to Chaz's 'Classy Cas', but, did anyone see that result coming? Was that the turnround, or just the intensity of our game that had the desired effect? Fair to assume it was a combination of both G.O.
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| Do we know why it has been changed , is it for sky purposes ?
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| Quote ="ninearches"Do we know why it has been changed , is it for sky purposes ?'"
Sky's request. 8pm k.o
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| Quote ="Ganson's Optician"They are FULL TIME PROFESSIONALS, it doesn't and shouldn't matter one bit. Championship players have been doing it alongside full time 'real' jobs without all the recovery support available in SL.'"
Do you play rugby? Trust me, you play a hard game and you only just recover in time for the next game. That's ammatuer rugby as well. I dread to think how the players feel the next day after a SL game. Malcolm Alkers book also sheds some light on how it feels to wake up after a game and the slippery slope of painkillers to mask the pain.
Just because they are professionals doesn't mean they heal quicker.
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| The only people that should have the final say on when games are due to be played is the RFL (or as previously stated the Local Police is a Safety issue)
Oh and owners of a Championship football ground who cant see that the RL will always bring in bigger crowds!
All this fixture changing is one reason the attendances are down IMO
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| I understand where Ganson is coming from but I agree with the consensus. If you're tired you're tired, the amount you get paid is of no consequence. You might get less sympathy if you're on a 6 figure salary but there is a price physically and mentally for every game.
Being completely honest, I don't know how anybody plays this game at that level. Incredible athletes.
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| Wasn't there a study by Northampton Uni in which they studied the fitness needed for all the major sports in the world and overall fitness RL was deemed the hardest, due to needing both high levels of aerobic and anaerobic fitness in equal measure.
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| According to warringtonwolves.org the fixture is now on Saturday 10th August at 3 pm.
I thought i'd read an article about this last week on the WG web page.
That will give us a 5 day turnround then a 9 day rest if we get to Wembley.
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| Well the fixture change means I can go so bicker all you want about the rights and wrongs, I'm happy with it. I won't be happy if we lose to either Wakefield (by resting players) or Widnes (by being knackered) as a result mind, or get fatigue related injuries against Widnes if we're in the Challenge Cup Final, but for now I'll see how it goes!
Mind you, Wire V Wakefield on Sunday, late shifts at work Monday and Tuesday, England V Scotland on Wednesday with overnight stay in London, Wire V Widnes on Thursday, late shift at work on Friday, Liverpool V Stoke on Saturday...
I might be collecting my bin bigs full of clothes from the driveway on the Saturday night and looking for a new place to live on Sunday.
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| Quote ="ninearches"According to warringtonwolves.org the fixture is now on Saturday 10th August at 3 pm.'"
Hmm. Scrap what I just said then as that now rules me out of the Wakefield game as I'll be at work then. Ah well, I suppose I'd rather go V Widnes than V Wakefield so swings and roundabouts.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"Well the fixture change means I can go so bicker all you want about the rights and wrongs, I'm happy with it. I won't be happy if we lose to either Wakefield (by resting players) or Widnes (by being knackered) as a result mind, or get fatigue related injuries against Widnes if we're in the Challenge Cup Final, but for now I'll see how it goes!
Mind you, Wire V Wakefield on Sunday, late shifts at work Monday and Tuesday, England V Scotland on Wednesday with overnight stay in London, Wire V Widnes on Thursday, late shift at work on Friday, Liverpool V Stoke on Saturday...
I might be collecting my bin bigs full of clothes from the driveway on the Saturday night and looking for a new place to live on Sunday.'"
Safe in the knowledge no doubt that your particular bin 'bigs' will be filled with the smartest clobber in Heald Green...Only joking DM, no I'm sure that they will be....
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Safe in the knowledge no doubt that your particular bin 'bigs' will be filled with the smartest clobber in Heald Green...Only joking DM, no I'm sure that they will be....'"
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| Quote ="Uncle Rico"Safe in the knowledge no doubt that your particular bin 'bigs' will be filled with the smartest clobber in Heald Green...Only joking DM, no I'm sure that they will be....'"
I'm not sure about that. Heald Green can be quite a well dressed place. It's hardly Warrington.
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| Quote ="Big Dave 3"Of course it matters. The players are humans not robots. Fatigue is bound to kick in!'"
totally agree with you big dave 3..i remember sky doing an aftermatch interview with sir lee last season and was asked about the next match being a short period away..sir lees responce was thanks sky..so some players do take this on board..just look at the debate over the games at easter,this argument always crops up
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I'm not sure about that. Heald Green can be quite a well dressed place. It's hardly Warrington.'"
[i'ahhhh got any superdry lad'[/i
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| How did Wigan manage it in the late 80s/early 1990s when they were in all the finals and so the fixtures piled up at the end of the season? They would play 3 or 4 games a week for the last 5 weeks of the season and they would still pretty much win them all.
They weren't really resting big names either, you would get Hanley, Bell, Edwards, Botica and co playing all those games.
That was an incredible achievement which gets overlooked, when you think not only did they win all those trophies, but the physical efforts that it took from them to win game after game.
Of course I know you will get some saying the other teams were all amateurs in those days, their opposition was only guys like Davies, Bateman, Mackey etc but I reckon even against today's superior Super League elites they would have stood out peerless.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"How did Wigan manage it in the late 80s/early 1990s when they were in all the finals and so the fixtures piled up at the end of the season? They would play 3 or 4 games a week for the last 5 weeks of the season and they would still pretty much win them all.
They weren't really resting big names either, you would get Hanley, Bell, Edwards, Botica and co playing all those games.
That was an incredible achievement which gets overlooked, when you think not only did they win all those trophies, but the physical efforts that it took from them to win game after game.
Of course I know you will get some saying the other teams were all amateurs in those days, their opposition was only guys like Davies, Bateman, Mackey etc but I reckon even against today's superior Super League elites they would have stood out peerless.'"
Fantastic achievement by Wigan. Reminds me of the time the Jamaicans won a gold medal at bobsleigh in the '88 winter olympics, I can still remember the film (Cool Running) they made about it. Some sporting achievements are just unbelievable and don't get the credit they deserve.
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| I don't know how Wigan managed it. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that, for the most part, they were full time professionals playing against part time professionals. That and the fact that they had so much quality because they spent more than anyone else. So much so that they had to sell their ground and now live like some tramp in Dave Whelan's stadium shaped layby.
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| And then there was Lance Armstrong winning all those Tours, who would have believed that ? Amazing.
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| Quote ="Dropkick Murphy"I'm not sure about that. Heald Green can be quite a well dressed place. It's hardly Warrington.'"
So we are all happy then? I'm sure you fit right in Mr Brummel
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| Quote ="Winslade's Offload"And then there was Lance Armstrong winning all those Tours, who would have believed that ? Amazing.'"
Who would have believed all them tries Brian Bevan scored.
Sometimes you don't ask the question if you can't deal with the answer.
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| Quote ="sally cinnamon"Who would have believed all them tries Brian Bevan scored.
Sometimes you don't ask the question if you can't deal with the answer.'"
I think you always need to ask the questions. On the face of it, Lance winning 7, and Wigan 8 in a row is a staggering performance. So why don't people talk about it any more ?
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