Nor is it to give away penalties, what's your point? It is one of a number of stats, which is handy when the conversation is about comparing stats.

morley is best prop in SL with ease

a prop`s job is to drive the team forward and make metres, not to score tries, the stats don`t lie and say that moz makes more metres than graham and more carries, therefore is a better prop.

over & out.

The stats say the complete opposite of your post.

In the same number of games Graham has made more carries and metres (added to more tries, more busts, less penalties, less errors etc) so by your own flawless logic, Graham is better. Well done for coming round to the truth.

ave you not read the post above that morleys_deckchair has posted,...obviously not...

This is because he is playing alot more game time....what that tells me is that is that he is being used to much, which is having a detrimental effect on his performance in terms of the yards he is making with the ball.

If saints arent careful he could end up going the same way as Fielden.. a great prop who was over used and burnt himself out.

fearthevee what are you chatting?it clearly says morleys makes more meters per carry make more tackles then you go and put graham makes more meters and more tackles than morley. no offence but are you blind or cant read as it is plain obvious morley is better doing what props are meant to do making meters and putting in tackles in the centre not score tries or assists what you pointed out what is what the backs are used for. if you are going to post saying one players is better than the other make sure you got the right stats to back it up not just go on what you think as a saints fan.

inabit.

Look at the stats for yourself.
[urlhttp://superleague.co.uk/statistics_player.php?hs1=2010&hp1=1885&hs2=2010&hp2=778&stat=tries&season=2010[/url
Graham makes more meters than anyone and has done for about 3 years now. Morley makes more meters per carry but graham makes a lot more carries. I don't like the meters per carry stat as it can confuse people, as it has done here, over who actually makes the most meters. I prefer meters per game which gives you:

Graham 155m
Morley 126m

I think i'd better point out i,m a wigan fan and am just arguing about stats rather than who is the better prop because id have either of these two at wigan in an instant.

Also O'Loughlin for man of steel, a few players have mentioned him as the best player this season (demetriou and peacock anyway) so he does seem to have the respect of the players whereas he can be overlooked by media/fans

True



Because he does



I didn't say that



Given your complete lack of comprehension, I take no offence at all don't worry.



Did you not read when I said:

till graham goes to oz and wins a gf over there and gets the praise from his fellow oz pros then it is a no contest, moz is clearly miles better, we will see how good graham is when he is mozzas age , lets see if hes still doin it week in week out at the highest level and be talked about as a leading mos contender yet again.

Jammer puts more work in, he is younger though, for a more accurate picture you'd have to look at Morleys stats at the same age. Morley is more effective on each individual run but lets be honest they are both great players.

mozza is the best by far, been there, seen it, done it, won it, end of chat.

At the end of the day the person who wins MOS tends to win it on performances in the latter half of the season, and by putting in big performances in the TV game's.

Bit more difficult now though that is. The Roosters were the rich glamour club full of class. Now with the cap it is hard to do that so Graham will not be surrounded by that like Moz was.

Graham is the best (British) prop in the league, closely followed by Peacock then Morley.

Peacock isn't the player he was a couple of years ago. I worry much more about facing Morley than Peacock.

www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Phill Bailey voted for Matt King last year and it looks like Monaghan has his vote so far this year. View the last question.

www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news Phill Bailey voted for Matt King last year and it looks like Monaghan has his vote so far this year. View the last question.

a bit like the wire now then?

He may be England captain but give me Morley anyday.

I've heard this story before about 'the best british prop... wise beyond his years... the Aussies will fear him... etc' let's look how that story finished....




Stuart Fielden!


I'm not saying that Fielden wasn't the best prop we had at a point, but he did too much too young, we over hyped him, and read far to much into the things he did, massive price tag to lumbar around with, and all of a sudden, he is on him back in Australia and on his 'arris being Wigan's 3rd choice prop.

I hope i'm wrong for England's sake, but their is a long way to go down Graham's track.

Lets be honest wire fans, we would all love to see Graham and Mozza playin for us.And am sure the saints fans would like to see Mozza and Graham playing for them.Both players are sheer class in what they bring to Sl.

Well said mate i've always liked Moz top player.

hardly

My thoughts too.

Monas is getting Phil Bailey's vote www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news

Monas is getting Phil Bailey's vote www.wiganwarriors.com/WContent.a ... &type=news