Warrington 1-14 St Helens at the halliwell jones. If we get past Leeds i dare to Tony Smith to flip that coin for clubcall

Not a cat in hells chance!

Its clubcall not coachcall!

I want to play Saints now and beat them just to annoy you.

On the arrogance scale the Saints fans I know are at the very top.
At work we have Saints fans who think they have a given right to win everything and are pretty much obnoxious.

Now come on Fatbelly. Let's not forget they destroyed a quality side in Hull KR who were unlucky not to finish top of the table after such a solid consistent season. I also have the pleasure of having Saint's fans in the workplace. Not only are they talking about winning this year's superleague there also talking about winning all three bits of silver on offer next year.

Deluded doesn't come into it. Can't wait till Friday night's game now. The only thing is I don't want Leeds of Saint's to win

It is all an act, the coaching staff and players will get together to discuss it and make a decision, then on Sunday Smith will stay on his farm milking the cows leaving Broomhead to make the announcenment and WP to do the media stuff.

Can't we just go back to a proper play- off system (I.e. top 5) and be done with it?

This year would have been great under that system-get rid of the teams who have no chance of winning the comp (Hull, Catalans, Rovers), Wigan-Saints knockout round 1; winner to loser of Wire-Leeds. Huddersfield get proper reward for finishing top ( assuming they would have done-or would the reward have made others try harder?!); then play us/Leeds, etc...

Also makes winning from 5th nigh on impossible-you've gotta beat everyone above you, 3 away from from home, 1 in GF. Leeds deserved the past 2 for getting through the system in place, but you should be heavily handicapped for being so poor throughout the season.

Hopefully when they cut down to 12 we'll return to this; though they'll probably keep top 8, so everyone is either playing for play- offs or avoiding relegation, under the illusion that it makes the league mean more, when actually it has the opposite effect, as we see now.

Is the Warrington vs 'whoever was picked' match DEFINATELY on the Thursday night, with the other match on the Friday?

Also, surely whoever the victor between Saints and Leeds, Warrington will fancy their chances more against the victor of Huddersfield or Hull. Say, for arguements sake, Saints beat Leeds and Hudds beat Hull, even though Huddersfield have been consistantly the best side this season and finished top of the table - in knockout rugby, Wire would fancy their chances against Huddersfield instead of Saints?

Warrington will beat any team in the eliminators. What nobody had touched on and I fear the most is the final, I recon if Wigan get to it they will be difficult to beat in a final...does anybody remember Wigan ever losing a final of any kind? I cannot remember.
sure I remember them losing a few semis. Someone put me straight please.

With that in mind. We must give the pies the hardest semi we can muster on them.
We must get Leeds or saints on them.

In fact I challenge someone to find when Warrington last defeated the pies in a final.
My god, now I fear a final v pies.

The 2003 Grand Final and 2004 Challenge Cup Final spring to mind straight away, so yes.

There are four play off games to come before any possibility of Wigan becoming relevant to us, so I couldn't care less about them at the moment.

I can recall Wigan playing Sheffield in a final once.

Of course, well done.

Out of interest when, if ever, was the last time wire beat pies in a final?

Tony Smith can make his point as much as he likes but in the end we should and will be playing Huddersfield or Hull.

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So it can be done!

As I've posted elsewhere I think Tony has made a rod for his own back by his own criticism of the Club Call.

However reading his comments about the previous absention he seems to be saying he didn't influence the decision.

Either way if we do go for the winner of Hudds v Hull we will very much have changed our tune as a club. I actually think we will come across as hypocritical if we don't abstain again, especially as we abstained on the vote to keep it.

End of the day if we want to go a step further and win it then we will have to beat who is in front of us.

I'd rather we just abstained again to be consistent and show we don't fear anyone.

irrespective of last week I very much doubt that Leeds will be chosen in a sudden death play off....Their recent record at HJ is also very good ignoring last weeks result, where as Huddersfield's record there isn't.
I actually think Leeds & Wire Final and a Leeds win again unfortunately.

Sorry to show my ignorance but I don't know and can't find a reference to it - when is clubcall going to be done? On Friday night after the game?

Sunday lunchtime. It's on Sky ... maybe Sky Sports News but not certain.

Sunday, Sky Sports News, 12pm.

I quite like the fact that it's on Sunday rather than Friday night or Saturday. Whether he admits it or not, Tony Smith will know who we are playing as soon as the final hooter goes at Headingley on Friday. He then has an extra day and a half to start preparing for the semi before our opponents are told who they're playing against. Small advantage margins like that can make a difference.

I was there that day. Possibly Steve Hesford's best game in the P&B. Wigan were poop at the time though.

Pick who we want and then say we flipped a coin to decide.

Sorted.

Yeah, they only just got promoted back up. I remember us absolutely battering them in the league that season too. Got Alex Murphys autograph by Ockers house.