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| Quote ="SEB"Booo cockers, you should have let him squirm for a bit longer.'"
Meh, spent all that time reading through it, had to gain something out of it
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| So am I right in saying if Gleeson goes to wigan this year, with them having 30k left on the cap he would have to go for a £15k contract..?
If thats right thats almost Radlinski-esq
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"So am I right in saying if Gleeson goes to wigan this year, with them having 30k left on the cap he would have to go for a £15k contract..?
If thats right thats almost Radlinski-esq
you can get that stacking shelves
thats some love for wigan'"
If it's correct they have £30k left and they don't release anyone - pretty much yes. As we are still in April, rather than June, it would be a bit more then £15k but not much.
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| Jukesays has gone very quiet - no apology?
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| Quote ="SEB"If it's correct they have £30k left and they don't release anyone - pretty much yes. As we are still in April, rather than June, it would be a bit more then £15k but not much.'"
If they released Phelps and Mathers, would their whole salary become available, or just half of it?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"What SEB put was right. Pay Gleeson £75k for six months and thats £150k on the cap.
Just admit you haven't a clue.'"
I'll admit I may not have a clue about the Salary Cap ! That's about all though!
Just explain to me what happens to the contracts of the players that leave the club part way through the year!
i.e If Mathers/Goulding/Phelps etc move on to make way or Gleesons contract with Wire does their contracts only count up to the point of them leaving???
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| Quote ="SEB"Jukesays has gone very quiet - no apology?'"
You wanted that very quick didn't you! Time of the Month?
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"If they released Phelps and Mathers, would their whole salary become available, or just half of it?'"
Whole salary.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I'll admit I may not have a clue about the Salary Cap
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Well done. Suggestion - don't shoot your mouth off about things you don't understand! Saves you being made to look silly.
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| Quote ="SEB"Whole salary.'"
So assuming Mathers is on 60k, plus the £15k left on the cap, that means they'll have to clear up £75k on the cap, just to match what we are paying him
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| Quote ="Jukesays"You wanted that very quick didn't you! Time of the Month?
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Not at all, just don't get people who don't understand things trying to correct people who do!
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| Quote ="SEB"If it's correct they have £30k left and they don't release anyone - pretty much yes. As we are still in April, rather than June, it would be a bit more then £15k but not much.'"
People are missing the point. Lenaghan said we had 30k left after what we offered to Greg Bird, so say that was 70K, we would have 100K.
Its all guesswork anyway until a deal is confirmed/denied officially
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| those rules are just a guideline, you don't have to follow them to the letter
ok you might get a slap on the wrist from the RFL and a couple of points deduction but there's no international financial regulator going to come down on the club if it breaches them
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"i don't consider mathers or goulding long term gain.'"
I assume it's been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but if anyone can get the best out of Mathers and Goulding, it would be Tony Smith. IMO, one of his biggest strengths as a coach is hiding players' weakness and exposing their strengths.
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"I assume it's been mentioned elsewhere on this thread, but if anyone can get the best out of Mathers and Goulding, it would be Tony Smith. IMO, one of his biggest strengths as a coach is hiding players' weakness and exposing their strengths.'"
Problem is, I don't think Mathers has any strengths
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"Problem is, I don't think Mathers has any strengths'"
Are you basing this judgement however, on his performances for Leeds - under Tony Smith - or his injury blighted stint in Ockerland, or perhaps his time at Wigan?
Let's be fair to the lad, that club has become a bit of a career graveyard for mid-top end SL players in the recent years, such as Orr, Moran, even Godwin and Higham to some extent.
I feel he has a lot of useful strengths, especially his role in the Leeds attacking line, which I felt went underrated; he was often taking over the first/second reciever role when one of the holy trinity of Burrow-Sinfield-McGuire were caught in possession and/or out of position.
Plus, any cash from the deal could be put to bring in Shenton, or, failing that, to be pumped firther into the youth academy and perhaps in a few years, we'll see the likes of our own Mendieka (sp?) banging on the door of the England squad.
(NB: I only use Mendieka's name as purely an example, I'm not cherry picking him out for messiah-like status)
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| Quote ="SEB"Whole salary.'"
Hi, I have had a look at the rules and can't see where this is explicitly stated.
Can you point me to the right clause?
I read if a player gets paid off then it is the compensation that becomes his salary cap value and that this is spread over the duration of his (ex)contract with a club. So his old salary cap value is gone.
So if Wigan paid Mathers off with £1 then that is his salary cap vale for the remainder of his contract. If that were two years it would be 50p a year!
Seems odd to me but there you go.
The interesting thing is with a transfer the player won't normally get a pay off from his old club. So are you suggesting if Gleeson left he would not incur any salary cap liability whatsoever to Wire this season?
If so where is this stated the regulations?
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| Mathers is a very simple equation for me:-
If it's the Mathers from Leeds, I'd take him like a shot.
If it's the Mathers from Wigan, I'd rather not bother and keep Riley at FB.
If anyone is going to get the best out of him, surely its TS.
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| I'd still like to know who the first choice centres are going to be for us if Gleeson does do one.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"I'd still like to know who the first choice centres are going to be for us if Gleeson does do one.'"
A query of mine too.
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| Quote ="worthing wire"I'd still like to know who the first choice centres are going to be for us if Gleeson does do one.'"
Two of Grix/King/Johnson
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| can we presume this aint happening?
deadline was 5pm for this weekend i think?
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| I'm going to wait until the team is announced tomorrow before I start taking the Michael
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