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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"if you have a collection of good merit worthy people they (in theory) should police each other. Still though like you said, how do you know if they are merit worthy ? as one mans terrorist is another mans freedom fighter. I think firstly you find all the leading professors in each of their fields and they choose who they think is the most morally suitable. After that they put the case to the people as to the reason why they chose that person and then let the public decide if that is a merit worthy reason.
It would make sense for the health minister to be from the health service and the guy running the budget to be a master of economics. Who says the Vulcans are dull'"
And therein lies the problem. The public choose who is most merit worthy without neccessarily being in the best place to comment.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"if you have a group of say 6
and you all want to be the top dog, you all fight you might come out on top but you might get beat.
a savvy person says what i'll do is align myself with 4 of them and get rid of one. now there are 5
Then he has a word with 3 and gets rid of another one. (you see where im going here).
The BNP are not all neanderthal supremacists some of them are well educated and manipulative.'"
As an aside, is that an accidental oxymoron?
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| Quote ="Wires71"And therein lies the problem. The public choose who is most merit worthy without neccessarily being in the best place to comment.'"
How to make sure you get a fair slice of a pie
one person cuts it, the other person chooses the slice.
If you cut the bigger slice the other person might chose it so you have to make sure it's fair and equal.
We need to equate that to politics somehow.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"How to make sure you get a fair slice of a pie
one person cuts it, the other person chooses the slice.
If you cut the bigger slice the other person might chose it so you have to make sure it's fair and equal.
We need to equate that to politics somehow.'"
Good answer. But say if the public wanted a slice of a different, unoffered, pie?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Good answer. But say if the public wanted a slice of a different, unoffered, pie?'"
i know, the trouble is with the majority of public is that they are reactionary (facebook groups for proof) and sometimes quite dangerous. im stumped to be honest. In theory life's answers are so simple but the reality is people want different things and to get a consensus on anything is a major achievement
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"The BNP don't have much of a problem with Jews, they actually have a Jewish councillor in Patricia Richardson and many Jewish members.'"
That's alright then.
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| Quote ="Latchford Wolvesfan"The BNP don't have much of a problem with Jews, they actually have a Jewish councillor in Patricia Richardson and many Jewish members.'"
what about black jews?
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| Quote ="cherry pie x111"i voted for the B.N.P, so what?? altenatives labour er no, tory er no again the list goes on
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There's always an alternative to complete gobery.
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| Quote ="slimwire66"what about black jews?'"
Black gay immigrant jew with a bulldog tattoo wearing a union jack vest
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Black gay immigrant jew with a bulldog tattoo wearing a union jack vest
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Boot out his on the first u-boat after the youth movement press gang him in the night.... Sorry "Aided repatriation under non British homogenistic requirements".
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| Quote ="Steve51"Boot out his booty on the first u-boat after the youth movement press gang him in the night.... Sorry "Aided repatriation under non British homogenistic requirements".'"
i thought a bulldog tattoo trumped everything
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed_79"Black gay immigrant jew with a bulldog tattoo wearing a union jack vest
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with a lesbian mum who is disabled and a communist
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Quote ="slimwire66"what about black jews?'"
Interesting point. There is such as thing but both Black Jews and Semetic Jews don't care for each other so much
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Jews
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Interesting point. There is such as thing but both Black Jews and Semetic Jews don't care for each other so much
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Jews
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Quote ="Wires71"Interesting point. There is such as thing but both Black Jews and Semetic Jews don't care for each other so much
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Jews'"
thats why i asked. just like white muslims would they be allowed in the BNP, DON'T THINK SO
NAZI SCUM, one and all, just the NF without doc martens and bomber jackets
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Jews'"
thats why i asked. just like white muslims would they be allowed in the BNP, DON'T THINK SO
NAZI SCUM, one and all, just the NF without doc martens and bomber jackets
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| Quote ="slimwire66"i'd like to see the evidence for this statement, india springs to mind as an example of where this theory falls flat on it's face!
overcrowding can lead to social problems like crime and poverty however financial unrest usually leads to facist tendancies rearing their ugly heads
eg germany in the 30's, britain last week.'"
Maybe a better phrase is the number of people against the number of resources available. You work in the NHS, reports suggest that there is a massive funding crisis on the horizon.
And even with population density anyway; England 383 persons per square kilometre, India 344. It is treble that of the European average. London has an unbelievable figure of 4700 persons per square kilometre.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Maybe a better phrase is the number of people against the number of resources available. You work in the NHS, reports suggest that there is a massive funding crisis on the horizon.
And even with population density anyway; England 383 persons per square kilometre, India 344. It is treble that of the European average. London has an unbelievable figure of 4700 persons per square kilometre.'"
compare tokyo to london then or bombay(or whatever it is called now )
they are comparable.
the nhs is due a crisis due to it's own success. the population is getting older, although mismanaged (imo) the country would be a worse place without it, however the BNP would restrict who could access health care if they had their way.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Maybe a better phrase is the number of people against the number of resources available. You work in the NHS, reports suggest that there is a massive funding crisis on the horizon.
And even with population density anyway; England 383 persons per square kilometre, India 344. It is treble that of the European average. London has an unbelievable figure of 4700 persons per square kilometre.'"
1/6th of the population of GB within the M25
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| Quote ="slimwire66"what about black jews?'" Cleopatra shwarz kids?
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| Quote ="slimwire66"compare tokyo to london then or bombay(or whatever it is called now
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they are comparable.
the nhs is due a crisis due to it's own success. the population is getting older, although mismanaged (imo) the country would be a worse place without it, however the BNP would restrict who could access health care if they had their way.'"
I don't think Tokyo is a good example, lots of extreme behaviour there including massive suicide rates.
And restricting access to health care is possibly a good thing, might just save the NHS.
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| Quote ="mark_m"Maybe a better phrase is the number of people against the number of resources available. You work in the NHS, reports suggest that there is a massive funding crisis on the horizon.
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The NHS resources, I am sure, are being stretched more by drug related resources than by the evil darkies claiming free health care.
You only have to look in A&E on any given day to see the amount of people requiring treatment due acohol/drug fueled fights, or heroin addicts needing treatment and draining valuable resources.
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| Quote ="mark_m"I don't think Tokyo is a good example, lots of extreme behaviour there including massive suicide rates.
And restricting access to health care is possibly a good thing, might just save the NHS.'"
you can't change the goal posts, there is very little nationalist behaviour in japan, that was the relationship between overcrowding and BNP that you brought up. didn't mention suicide!
restricting any one from health caRE should be a crime.. end of!
i'm sure your just trying to wind me up rather than have a reasoned debate. so i intend to no longer respond to your baiting!
imo any policy held by the BNP is a thin veil for hatred, you will not convince me otherwise, so lets just leave it there.
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| I wonder if the BNP would dedicate Police and NHS resources to rape victims?
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| Quote ="'Hitman' Norvern Soul"I wonder if the BNP would dedicate Police and NHS resources to rape victims?'"
why make an impact on what some members of the BNP consider accepable behaviour, irronically i wonder how we'd cope without all the black, asian and foreign doctors, nurses and health care proffesionals?
if a BNP member became ill and the consultant/surgeon was black and the only person who could treat/save him would he refuse treatment?
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| Quote ="slimwire66"if a BNP member became ill and the consultant/surgeon was black and the only person who could treat/save him would he refuse treatment?'"
He wouldn't mind if they were French.
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| Quote ="slimwire66"you can't change the goal posts, there is very little nationalist behaviour in japan, that was the relationship between overcrowding and BNP that you brought up. didn't mention suicide!
restricting any one from health caRE should be a crime.. end of!
i'm sure your just trying to wind me up rather than have a reasoned debate. so i intend to no longer respond to your baiting!
imo any policy held by the BNP is a thin veil for hatred, you will not convince me otherwise, so lets just leave it there.'"
You're the chief goal-post mover here; it was you said India was more crowded than Englnd when simply it isn't. And Japan has been the most nationalist, inward looking country on earth for hundreds of years; check your history books.
And with regard to the NHS, why shoud healthcare be a free option for all. Somebody above mentioned drug users as an example; why the **** have I worked all my life to pay for people who deliberately abuse themselves? Thye should be bloody sent a bill.
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