Some grim reading in the stats department last night but Kasiano's stand out as absolutely pitiful.

the what bevan guys put them up, i wasn't totally surprised to see kasiano at 17 carries, although 3 of them ended in errors at the ptb, which a couple of which became penalties.

he's as bad as BMM for errors at the ptb

If my maths is right, 58 meters over 17 carries is an average of 3.41 meters.

Google puts him at 1.96 tall. He could have caught the ball, lay down without moving and made 33 meters! WITHOUT MOVING

...and Kasiano was gobbing off to the ref again. What are the coaching staff doing in between games?

This weeks ant with breathing difficulties carrying the very heavy shopping.

Thought one of your major weaknesses last night was Duffy who was out of position a few times and didn`t add anything to your attack.
Kasiano is a joke and let you down several times in decent positions.
Your defence after that 20 minute spell wasn`t that bad but you were lacking ideas near our line.
All sounds very similar to us when we lost to teams like Wakefield and Cas.
Powell blaming a couple of injuries and saying he needs to recruit more isn`t going to help the dressing room either.

Though tbf she is still getting over that kidnapping thing...

Certainly begging for mercy

Had it on radio as i couldn't get to see the match. Sounded terrible & not worthy of the paying public's support. A collection of players who have generally stood still while other teams around us have upped their game over the last 3 months. The sooner we start sliding down the table the better, we certainly don't merit 2nd place.

Would have thought with your record over recent years you’d have become accustomed to losing to ‘teams like Cas’.

It was just a very disappointing game. Not switched on for first 20 minutes, I actually didn't mind beforehand the switch of Dufty into half back because his passing in the line had been good before, and he didn't defend at 6, so was OK to see how he did, but the combination of him and Pnut on that right edge awful you could see how much confidence was lacking in that Russell was constantly coming in from the wing which created a number of their tries.
Confidence again low Matty Ashton had a break and the beginning of the season would have smoked them on the outside but came back inside caught. Drinkwater short kicking was awful it was like he'd never played on the HJ. But they did get better after 20 or marginally less worse in defence but they were so toothless in attack and the niggling frustration on behalf of most players apparent to see. As regards the booing, I never boo I see it as counter productive and I always want to be behind the team not on their backs but I respect everyone's right to boo if that what they want to do, when after shelling out hard earned money on a school night on a fixture on sky, to be served up that is understandable.

and if he took a Walmsleyesque step forward before playing the ball, he'd be top meter maker.

Having seen us play recently the still unanswered questions are how did he play so well at the start of the season ... & beat Catalan away twice? Williams obviously absent last two games.
Same team, same Coach, same management team.

What is this playing of the ball of which you speak? Do you mean fumbling the ball like it's a brief encounter on a first date, prior to panicking, rolling it down your shin and then trying to stomp on it?.

I'm not answering you, as you'll only ask me to explain some other unicorns of the game, like a scrum being fed in between both hookers and the ref taking them back the ten.

I think Mattie Russell deserves a shout out here - he's not been mentioned.
I thought he did his usual thing of bringing the ball out strongly - similar to Ashton.
Thewlis also comes out with credit.

Naughty step - awful game from Kasiano, Dudson poor. The fact that Bullock got Wire MoM from his limited minutes says it all

Whilst Dufty was found out in the halves, I do recall a number of people calling for him to be in the halves instead of Ratch.
It cant be Dufty next week.
(I suspect he will go for PM so that Wrench can slot back in with Thewlis on the wing and Dufty back at fb even though Russell has done nothing wrong. I'd suggest Dufty could be better from the bench).

A disappointment for me was that when we had the ball we just didnt seem to put any set plays on, with different players on different scripts (no chase for kick throughs etc etc).

Very difficult times. Easy to complain - and people have every right to, but it doesn't solve the problem.
From what I've read no-one has a coherent and compelling solution.

It's very difficult times. I never wanted the miserable sod as our coach, but something worked early on this year. We were winning in lots of different ways. Unless we get Holbrook (or equivalent), I wouldn't swap just for swapping sake. A few mentioned Rowley recently. Hmm. Certainly not Watson now. I'm not convinced Wane would have the passion for anyone but Wigan and GB/England. However, if this goes on for another five or six weeks, then I guess we'll have to bite the bullet. It does look like a lost cause at the moment, but Wigan dropped from top to 6th a few weeks back. Now they are back on the up. Ah well. It's time for sleep.

I don’t boo my team.
I just get gutted sick, and if I see them in a place to get boos, I’ll stay away, I can’t watch it.

Green as had a good game in the academy today but can only get 18th man while Dudson and Kasiano are stealing a wage.

This is the job for the coaching and management teams, who are not getting anywhere near the best out of this squad. DP was brought in on the premise that he gets the best out of players, which perhaps has happened for a few, but just hasn't happened in enough cases.

My take on some areas that need addressing

1) Defence. Our poor line speed is the biggest problem, which allows our opponents too many easy yards and their halfbacks too much space and time to work in. Work on turning your opponent over in the tackle (Wigan in the cup were a great example that we should be replicating).

2) Attack. It's all one up stuff at the moment. We need to support the ball player, then when anyone makes a half break and can offload, there's a team mate ready to accept it. There's no planned moves, lets work on some as were really playing the most tedious brand of rugby that's too easy to defend against. Find the floor on your front and get quicker play the balls, work on not getting turned over in the tackle.

3) Motivation. The squad need to brought together and encouraged to put the McGuire issue behind them, and to get to the harmony we seemed to have earlier in the season.

4) Fitness. Kasiano has a silhouette of a seventies rugby player, and can only play for a few minutes a game. Our lack of line speed my be down to a lack of fitness, we might have a big pack this year, but they've got to be mobile as well.

I'm sure there's other stuff, but the above should not be that difficult to implement and for us to improve. The only proviso being that the squad is willing to work with the coach. As DP has already got rid of the "bad apples" who wouldn't work with him when he joined, and if his assembled squad currently does not want to work with him, then DP is the problem, not the solution.

If ,as we have heard ,some other antipodeans are restless to go home post McGuire , i think Powell should exclude them from the team & pick a team which is at least singing from the same hymn sheet. Put a game plan together round them ,any Aussies that want to stay & whatever academy players are available & that would be the team against Saints. Drop the rest & get them plane tickets asap. Perhaps too radical for the Wire though.

The division (if there is one) needs to be addressed head on and resolved.

And when our side, consisting of several untried academy players, inevitably got bummed by 50 or 60 pts, this forum would just tell us how much it was Powell's fault....

You're right there DSM but at least we might see some cohesive effort & we won't be in the relegation mix this year.

Let's be honest .. it's the Second year on the bounce that we have both off field player unrest and adversity on the field which Daryl seems unable to negotiate..the board though will again save him by their own apathy to the situation