Riley might not even make the starting 13

What do you think the starting 13 will be?

Not a clue but one of these will have to be dropped if he's in the 13 which is great IMO it means players will really have to earn and keep there place.

1 Mathers
2 Hicks
3 Bridge
4 King
5 Atkins

Why's that then?

We'll see. He'll be up there at least, that I'll bet you.

Am with you mate I reckon he's going to score bags of tries, using his speed behind our pack hes going to run defences all over the place.

Just seen we are 4/1 to win the league W/O Leeds & St Helens decent price I think.

Eastmond should get a few at saints as he`s an individual type player rather than the orthodox organiser that saints have had in the past with Long, i can`t see past Scott Donald really, if Chris Hicks can start off like he`s done in the past then he is worth a shout depending on who is centre partner will be.

Myler's a good shout - if he follows Solomona & Vinnie Anderson around the pitch he'll score a fair few in the way Shaun Edwards did for Wigan backing up Ellery...

Agreed Myler looks a decent bet, as support play seems to be the main facet of his game and I reckon we'll be making more breaks than Ronnie O'Sullivan this season.

Will have to wait and see until the odds come out, but Chris Walker from the Catalan Dragons could be a good outside bet.

Mathers everytime.
He hasn't had the best prep last couple of seasons so maybe we'll see a different player but I don't understand why you wouldnt go with a 22 year old kid with bags of pace and it would appear genuine fullback ability

Mathers is more natural FB than Hicks and Riley.

Swap King and Atkins around and you may have the starting backs!

Mathers has proven ability at fullback plus like you said he's had injuries and had to come to a new team halfway in the season last year would like to think he will be more like the Leeds Mathers this season, not saying Riley couldn't do well at fullback but for me I would go with Mathers but like I said competition for places is a good thing.

Mathers isn't going to get much better over the next 5 years.
Riley is, imo Richie's on his last legs this season: perform or he's out.

Cant see past Ryan Hall or Scott Donald tbh. Scott Donald didnt get much service from his centre and back rower last season as Lee Smith wasn't really a line breaking ball handling centre like Senior & Gidley. This season Donald has got a proper centre alongside him and a world class back rower at his side of the field to create some space for the 3/4s to run riot.

try scorer, seriously, with our kicking potential this year Matt King is worth a punt
point scorer though i think i'll go with Pat Richards

I've had a fiver on Atkins.

Who with?

I've not yet but i'm planning too once i find a bookmaker with the odds up.

I think Donald won't get the service.
Delaney's decent but he's never in a million years a wingers centre so to speak

should get good odds...he`s decent outside bet

gareth hock at 33/1 might have give it away

Mona's for MOS @ 33/1 looks a good price when you think how key he is to us being a success again this season.

thats actually a pretty good bet.

Amos Roberts might be worth a shout. If he stays fit, our wingers always got 20+ outside Gleeson. They'll have a better understanding this year you'd hope.

Would you