Its a tough one to call for me. They have recruited in the pack well but gilmour was always a good player in a good squad, will he be able to be a good player in the huddersfield squad?

They were sound defensively last year but my issue is can they maintain it? new players generally means new ideas/time to gel.

For some reason i just cant see them doing as well as last season. I believe Bradford, Hull FC & Catalans will all improve, so where does this leave huddersfield? I just cant call it this year. will be closer than ever this year!

The CC final seemed to be a bit of a watershed for them. Huddersfield had won their games by quick, compact defence. We seemed to expose them in that game, then other teams followed suit.

Biggest obstacle is Brown bringing more new tricks from Oz.

I see Hudds in top 6, I think Mc Nally will get a shot and maybe improve them in the Halves I dont think they have the quality to challenge for the big titles. I think Brown got found out tactically in the final having said that he fully deserved to be coach of the year.

Ding-ding-ding.

One trick in defence was cruelly exposed by one Lee Briers kick at Wembley, and they never looked half as cocky in defence again all season. They were the epitome of the "solid" game, five drives and a kick and decent defence, but I always thought they were lacking in brilliance (Brett "knock-on king" Hodgson wasn't nearly as good as people would have you believe).

By "other teams" do you just mean Catalans, because they were the only team to beat them in the rest of the season apart from Saints, who hardly need to uncover a tactical secret to win a game.

What do you reckon our watershed game was, I reckon Saints at home, we'd been going ok under Tony Smith until that point but Saints showed teams how we could be beaten, which is why our last 8 league games we had a record of won 2 (against the mighty Salford and Harlequins), lost 6.

Of course it was because we were hungover from the Cup final.....begs the question though, how come Saints usually start winning again in the league after they win at Wembley, but Wire have to go to pieces even when we only needed a handful of wins to get into the playoffs!

What have Saints got to do with a Huddersfield thread? What have Saints' results after a CC Final got to do with a Huddersfield thread?

im expecting leeds, saints, us, wigan and bradford to all finish above huddersfield this season..and probably catalan as well.

I do not think they will repeat last seasons success.

Why are people on here saying that we are a better team than Huddersfield? Huddersfield got where they were last year on merit and you cant fault them for that.

Basically superleague is of distinctinctly average standard, with the exception of Leeds, who'll cake-walk the title. Every other team, except Celtic are more than capable of beating each other. I'd expect Huddersfield to still finish above Warrington in 4th/5th position, but that's only because other teams will improve, notably Bradford and Castleford.

Leeds didn't 'cake-walk' the title by any means, were showed up by a few 'average' sides throughout the season, and had a close-run thing with Saints again. Huddersfield were very good in 2009, maybe over-reliant on the 'umbrella' defence and the quick inside-ball from 7 or 9 to Hodgson ( of another runner ). If opposition defences can stop this, and find their way wide ( as did Wire at Wembley ) Hudds will have a tougher time of it.

Waffle all you want,i think you will do as well has you did last year?,and the Giants will be as good if not better than last year.

Any confirmation of where our away match with Catalans is being held yet?

and I bet we don't win a trophy...

jesus what a fan you are betting the team your supposed to support does`nt win a trophy...well for your info we won one last year...and hudds still wont finish top 4..

You are Live Wired and I claim my five groats.

Schadeunfreude, isn't it?

With or without a new coach, bradford will finish above huddersfield next year. Why? Because they have a world class half back and huddersfield don't have any.

I think you miss Sally's point: given that there are only two trophies to win, Sally's 'bet' is as least as good as a bet that Giants won't finish in the top four.

maybe...but to say we wont win a trophy before a balls been kicked is a puzzler...considering we won one last year after the start we had....get the opinion sally does`nt want us to win owt.so he/she can av a moan...still cant see hudds in the top 4..just a feeling..

'Udders will be up there and abouts, tricky team to beat. Defence is top, they do need abit more spice in the attacking line though, McNally could provide this. In the CC final they come unstuck in attack against us and couldn't quite find the play to get them back into the game.

How can you say Hudds won't get in the top 4 before a ball has been kicked? Obviously a team on the up and finished 3rd last year on merit.

I hope we do win a trophy, and I reckon we will have a much better season, probably pushing top 5 this year, just got a feeling we won't win a trophy. If we slip up in the Challenge Cup I reckon we might not win Super League.

how can i say hudds wont get in the top 4....the same way as you say we wont win a trophy

I love the fact that we're unbeaten in the Challenge Cup since 2008, almost two years since our last defeat.

Awesome.

I think many of their ex-Wiganers are some of the most under-rated players in Super League - Hodgson, Robinson and particularly Wild. They could finish top 4 again, but might go the other way and drop down again. Hard one to call.

I think Elliot Hodgson is good prospect too...

Even with Gilmour I think letting to of Fulton is a bad for them!!! Horne is a good player too...

They didn't let go, he wanted to go back to the NRL, he came to help them out when Carney was knocked back by the visa applicating thing. They'd have kept Fulton, he was excellent.

Horne ? Awful.