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| The betting as changed again Pay is out to even money, Brennan back in to 2/1 and Maguire is at 5/2. If Price is now of interest well he is not in the betting as yet.
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| Quote ="karetaker"The betting as changed again Pay is out to even money, Brennan back in to 2/1 and Maguire is at 5/2. If Price is now of interest well he is not in the betting as yet.'"
Where can I find this Pal, because I went into Betfreds today & they rang their Head Office who wouldn't offer a price on anyone.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Where can I find this Pal, because I went into Betfreds today & they rang their Head Office who wouldn't offer a price on anyone.'"
The link wirefan as posted,it was missing yesterday afternoon till today,I assumed it may have been because they knew something,anyway it's back up,just follow the link or just go on Betfred.
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| Quote ="Fatbelly"Where can I find this Pal, because I went into Betfreds today & they rang their Head Office who wouldn't offer a price on anyone.'"
Who you putting your 50p on FB?
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| Quote ="Wirefan"https://betfred.mobi/sports/rugby-league/event/8451865.2'"
15 names on that list. Top 11 from NRL.
"If we sack Smith, who do we replace him with"
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| Well Dean Pay is still bookies favourite for the job, but he is now heavly linked to the Bulldogs job since Hassler got sackrd.
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| Quote ="Wire Weaver"Who you putting your 50p on FB?'"
Paul Cullen or Tony Barrow not sure which
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| Quote ="karetaker"The link wirefan as posted,it was missing yesterday afternoon till today,I assumed it may have been because they knew something,anyway it's back up,just follow the link or just go on Betfred.'"
The bookies wont know anymore than we all do, so i wouldnt be following them as closely as you are in the hope of getting info quick. Next manager markets are a little money maker for bookies (low liquidity compared to the main markets) as there are lots of false favourites and rumours that help them. In these markets a relatively small bet can effect the prices much more significantly than in other markets so they are quite inefficient.
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Quote ="mailman"The bookies wont know anymore than we all do, so i wouldnt be following them as closely as you are in the hope of getting info quick. Next manager markets are a little money maker for bookies (low liquidity compared to the main markets) as there are lots of false favourites and rumours that help them. In these markets a relatively small bet can effect the prices much more significantly than in other markets so they are quite inefficient.'"
Like when Paddy Power quoted 66/1 for (the recently deceased) Ugo Ehiogu to be the new manager at Birmingham City.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41305915
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Like when Paddy Power quoted 66/1 for (the recently deceased) Ugo Ehiogu to be the new manager at Birmingham City.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-41305915
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| Or " if we sack Smith MID SEASON who do we replace him with?"
Didn't notice any household names queuing up for the Saints job.
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| Quote ="Wires71"15 names on that list. Top 11 from NRL.
"If we sack Smith, who do we replace him with"
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That was the strongest/only argument used as well for keeping him
"who else is there"
while we plummeted into bottom of the league play offs, only for Smith to say "oh well i wasn't bothered anyway"
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| And to think ,but for Mr Smith's mutually agreed departure, next season could have been as bad if not worse. Whoever comes in looks like having very little to work with unless we have some signings on ice. We are obviously not a honey pot of a club judging by how long it is taking to find anyone who seems interested in the job & if no scouting work has been done in this field earlier in the season it looks like the higher management were happy to maintain the status quo for next season. The whole episode smacks of amateurish incompetence right through the club hierarchy of so called businessmen.
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| i was talking to a friend last night about this over a few beers..... and after a while, we came to the conclusion that we would like to see Cullen on the coaching staff.
The thinking was that he would be able to generate a bit of 'love for the shirt'... which has been in very short supply lately.
So it was an up and coming coach from the NRL with Cullen as his assistant.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i was talking to a friend last night about this over a few beers..... and after a while, we came to the conclusion that we would like to see Cullen on the coaching staff.
The thinking was that he would be able to generate a bit of 'love for the shirt'... which has been in very short supply lately.
So it was an up and coming coach from the NRL with Cullen as his assistant.'"
May as well have 'Orford Mike' on coaching staff if we want love for the shirt.
Cullen has been away from sport long enough to be behind the times when it comes to techniques and coaching. Would be nice to have him involved, something alongside Richard Mathers' role.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"May as well have 'Orford Mike' on coaching staff if we want love for the shirt.
Cullen has been away from sport long enough to be behind the times when it comes to techniques and coaching. Would be nice to have him involved, something alongside Richard Mathers' role.'"
you know, it was nice(and weird) to see cull handing shirts out and wearing training gear earlier this season, i always wondered if there was any bad blood between him and the club, but i guess that time heals all wounds.
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| Quote ="Smith's Brolly"May as well have 'Orford Mike' on coaching staff if we want love for the shirt.
Cullen has been away from sport long enough to be behind the times when it comes to techniques and coaching. Would be nice to have him involved, something alongside Richard Mathers' role.'"
im not sure 'Orford Mike' played over 300 games over 16 years... but i know what you're saying.
Does an assistant need to be well up on coaching techniques under a proper head coach? More than likely needs to be an arm round the shoulder, a pat on the back and a word in the ear.
Look at our last assistant... he was well clued up in the ways of modern RL and squash.
Either way.. whatever the role, i would like to see him back at the club.... probably wont happen though.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"i was talking to a friend last night about this over a few beers..... and after a while, we came to the conclusion that we would like to see Cullen on the coaching staff.
The thinking was that he would be able to generate a bit of 'love for the shirt'... which has been in very short supply lately.
So it was an up and coming coach from the NRL with Cullen as his assistant.'"
How many beers did you have?
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| Not too sure about the sentiment of keeping ex-players and ex-coaches around on the staff. Sometimes you need a clean break away from any of the old culture to make things work differently and better.
I'd happily take anyone without any Wires connection so long as they can bring us the GF win we so desire.
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| Quote ="ninearches"And to think ,but for Mr Smith's mutually agreed departure, next season could have been as bad if not worse. Whoever comes in looks like having very little to work with unless we have some signings on ice. We are obviously not a honey pot of a club judging by how long it is taking to find anyone who seems interested in the job & if no scouting work has been done in this field earlier in the season it looks like the higher management were happy to maintain the status quo for next season. The whole episode smacks of amateurish incompetence right through the club hierarchy of so called businessmen.'"
Come on, do you really think that Smith announces his resignation on the Sunday and KF flies out Monday morning to Aus. Do you not think that this was planned weeks ago and the trip arranged around the announcement. And we have not already been talking to coaches and players. Regardless of the on field achievements this season the club is still run well and organised. We are not just starting form now with recruitment and replacement, but if it helps for you to spout negativity again then fine keep going if it makes you happy
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| Quote ="ninearches"And to think ,but for Mr Smith's mutually agreed departure, next season could have been as bad if not worse. Whoever comes in looks like having very little to work with unless we have some signings on ice. We are obviously not a honey pot of a club judging by how long it is taking to find anyone who seems interested in the job & if no scouting work has been done in this field earlier in the season it looks like the higher management were happy to maintain the status quo for next season. The whole episode smacks of amateurish incompetence right through the club hierarchy of so called businessmen.'"
You seem to make a large number of assumptions without any evidence. The suggestion that the supposed delay in announcing a new coach equates to trying to find someone who is interested, beggars belief. Would you really want such an important decision to be made in haste?
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| Quote ="Penks81"How many beers did you have?'"
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| The Mole (love him or hate him) has just replied to a tweet saying he thinks the Maloney move has a chance, and when was asked who he thinks our next coach will be, he said Maguire.
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| Well from what i have heard from people close to the club, the mutual decision for Smith to stand down was only made hours before it was announced, so is it possible the club were not already scouting for a coach & were quite happy for the status quo to continue ? There doesn't seem to be a stampede beating a path to the HJ, but just like everyone else i am allowed an opinion.
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| Smith initiated it you mean? Or the board realised the issues couldn't be rectified?
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