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| Quote ="FearTheVee"That stat is garbage.'"
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"I didn't post it'"
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| Quote ="Egg Chasing"If you're claiming the two London defeats don't count because you fielded a weak team then you can claim last night didn't count can't you?'"
Yeah. And Wembley was because the ref cheated, so really, we're still amazing.
[size=85(To clarify for those that will attack me because my name is on the post, I don't really mean this. You won fair and square last night, it just doesn't mean much because Kyle Amor was injured ).[/size
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| For a small relatively unsuccessful team when compared to our more glamorous neighbours we don't half seem to have got under their skin. Why on earth would one spend the best part of their Friday on the forum of a team that has just beaten you?
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| My advice to Saints fans is enjoy whatever success comes your way this year, because after it you will be in need of major, [imajor[/i transition.
Of their starting 6 forwards, Thompson is off to the NRL and the rest are well past 30 and tailing off into periods of niggly injuries and decline.
The much heralded youngsters in the pack really didn't look like they fancied an attritional battle without Uncle Alex to hide behind and the backs without Makinson and Coote look pedestrian.
Face facts, the current squad peaked last year at OT, then flattered to deceive against Salford last week and finally got found out last.night.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"My advice to Saints fans is enjoy whatever success comes your way this year, because after it you will be in need of major, [imajor[/i transition.
Of their starting 6 forwards, Thompson is off to the NRL and the rest are well past 30 and tailing off into periods of niggly injuries and decline.
The much heralded youngsters in the pack really didn't look like they fancied an attritional battle without Uncle Alex to hide behind and the backs without Makinson and Coote look pedestrian.
Face facts, the current squad peaked last year at OT, then flattered to deceive against Salford last week and finally got found out last.night.'"
Talk about getting carried away!
The end is nigh!
I assume when you say all our starting pack are "well past 30" you have forgotten Walmsley/Knowles (not yet 30) and are including Peyroux who is well past 30 in that he turned 31 three weeks ago?
Roby and Thompson will be tough to replace for sure.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Yeah. And Wembley was because the ref cheated, so really, we're still amazing.
[size=85(To clarify for those that will attack me because my name is on the post, I don't really mean this. You won fair and square last night, it just doesn't mean much because Kyle Amor was injured
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And in what way did the ref cheat ,my bitter & hate filled friend ?
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| I think we would have seen less of Saints fans if they had won last night...ok maybe not.
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| Quote ="ninearches"And in what way did the ref cheat ,my bitter & hate filled friend ?'"
You lot are all like Drax from Guardians of the Galaxy. Everything is taken so literally. I even posted that I didn't mean it in the same post.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Yeah. And Wembley was because the ref cheated, so really, we're still amazing.
[size=85(To clarify for those that will attack me because my name is on the post, I don't really mean this. You won fair and square last night, it just doesn't mean much because Kyle Amor was injured
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Speaking of being attacked, have you stopped issuing thinly veiled death threats to a certain referee?
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"icon_smile.gif Talk about getting carried away!
The end is nigh!
I assume when you say all our starting pack are "well past 30" you have forgotten Walmsley/Knowles (not yet 30) and are including Peyroux who is well past 30 in that he turned 31 three weeks ago?
Roby and Thompson will be tough to replace for sure.'"
There's more important games to come, and both clubs will want their best 17 on the pitch. That was neither sides best 17, but you rarely have that luxury in contact sport. We'll enjoy the two points for now, and look forward to further encounters. No point in getting over excited after round two of SL.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"My advice to Saints fans is enjoy whatever success comes your way this year, because after it you will be in need of major, [imajor[/i transition.
Of their starting 6 forwards, Thompson is off to the NRL and the rest are well past 30 and tailing off into periods of niggly injuries and decline.
The much heralded youngsters in the pack really didn't look like they fancied an attritional battle without Uncle Alex to hide behind and the backs without Makinson and Coote look pedestrian.
Face facts, the current squad peaked last year at OT, then flattered to deceive against Salford last week and finally got found out last.night.'"
You could say that about any side. BMM is off to the NRL, Hill, Widdop, Gelling and Clark are entering or about to enter periods of decline. Austin will be back in the NRL if anyone will take him etc etc. Saints will always be relatively strong as we will produce quality young players consistently.
Your post is like something I'd post on our forum in the Cunningham days when everyone was telling everything was perfect when it clearly wasn't. That didn't take long to turn around.
This is why Warrington fans get mocked so much. One win and you're proclaiming us finished and Warrington invincible. Neither is true. But it's good for the competition that you're back to chest beating and feeling supremely confident, could set up a great season if Hull live up to their promise too. Compare to the woe is us posts from most Warrington fans before the season started, amazing what a win against a finished bunch of dead beats can do for morale.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Speaking of being attacked, have you stopped issuing thinly veiled death threats to a certain referee?'"
Maybe one day you'll be educated enough to understand the reference there.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"icon_smile.gif Talk about getting carried away!
The end is nigh!
I assume when you say all our starting pack are "well past 30" you have forgotten Walmsley/Knowles (not yet 30) and are including Peyroux who is well past 30 in that he turned 31 three weeks ago?
Roby and Thompson will be tough to replace for sure.'"
No I didn't include Peyroux because he's bang average at 2nd row and a total liability at centre. And Walmsley's injury record in the last 2 years speaks volumes. He's a great prop but after this year, he's gone, believe me.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"No I didn't include Peyroux because he's bang average at 2nd row and a total liability at centre. And Walmsley's injury record in the last 2 years speaks volumes. He's a great prop but after this year, he's gone, believe me.'"
True, those niggly broken neck injuries are a shocker.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"=#0000FFLosing to Warrington doesn't bother me. You've been a top side since Moran started splashing the cash and you are long overdue success. In the past we were vastly superior to Warrington in all areas, that hasn't been the case for getting on for ten years now, probably since Cunningham retired. But groups of results between the top sides often go like that. It has always been Saints > Bradford, largely Bradford > Leeds but Leeds > Saints. You struggle to beat Wigan, where we've had far more success. I don't expect us to win trophies either, I want us to but sport is sport, all the other teams are striving for the same thing and at times you lose. We've been here before with Warrington and it's not panned out as people claim it's destined to. Saints have lost one proper league game in 489 days according to Twitter last night. I'm not losing any sleep over that, nor would I if you were to dominate Super League this season like we did last, it's bound to happen eventually.'"
Then why is this your nineth post on this thread?
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| After reading the red vee posts on the game....how on earth we won that against a team of duel registered beats me. We were bloody lucky to have all our players but 1 available. They'd put put 40 on us if Warmsley and a couple more back...!
Phew...we dodged a bullet there.
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| Quote ="Saddened!"Maybe one day you'll be educated enough to understand the reference there.'"
On what basis can you claim that [iI'm[/i uneducated? You're the one who makes no apology for your childish post that most of your peers on RedVee did not condone, yet are the first to bring up any wrong doing by any Warrington supports on this forum.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"Then why is this your nineth post on this thread?'"
I like talking about RL. I'll do it whether we win, lose or draw. I post on here more frequently when we're playing you or you're in the headlines, Saints don't have a forum here anymore and I come on here to read what the rest of the clubs are up to given RL is not in the press much. I'll probably be off here for a while, as we're not playing each other for a while. Give you all chance to recover. Despite the overly sensitive reactions, what I post is actually quite balanced and fair.
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| Quote ="MorePlaymakersNeeded"On what basis can you claim that [iI'm[/i uneducated? You're the one who makes no apology for your childish post that most of your peers on RedVee did not condone, yet are the first to bring up any wrong doing by any Warrington supports on this forum.'"
It didn't need an apology. It was clearly a reference to the PR piece on ITV involving Hicks and the death threats. In hindsight, I kind of wish I'd put a winky face for all the literalists who weren't able to grasp that. It got reported to Twitter 12 times and rejected 12 times and I got a nice email from Twitter support saying it was fine 12 times. I'd say the majority of people took it for what it was, a slightly bitter dig at Hicks wrapped in a reference to the news story.
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| Quote ="FearTheVee"True, those niggly broken neck injuries are a shocker.'"
Shoulder injury v Salford and now calf in warm up? Hmmm.
Come now, I didn't say Saints period of dominance was coming to an end purely that you had some major recruitment in one specific area (the pack) to do, and clearly you have. You peaked last year and you'll obviously be in the mix this year but beyond that you'll be back to the levels of we mere mortals.
I actually think LMS (much as he bugs.me) and Taia will be bigger.misses than Roby. Roby is still a good player but has been on a downward trajectory for 2 years now and injuries have [icertainly[/i been a factor.
As for your younger forwards? Nah. Too many Ernie Wises and not enough Eric Morecambes mate, though they certainly made me laugh last night.
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| So you still think death threats are ok as long as you do it in a jovial maner?
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| Roby was/is a drain on cap and restriction on fresher replenish as was Bennie for us...sentiment will be costly for the Vee. A season too far. He's been a good un though...not as good as his predecessor I might add.
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| Quote ="morrisseyisawire"
Face facts, the current squad peaked last year at OT, '"
Isn’t that how it works?
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"Roby was/is a drain on cap and restriction on fresher replenish as was Bennie for us...sentiment will be costly for the Vee. A season too far. He's been a good un though...not as good as his predecessor I might add.'"
I don’t think It was a drain to see him lift the title again from the front, continuing his illustrious career and remarkable trophy haul.
(Roby, not Westwood obviously. Last time he did anything was lamp Blake Green in the final you lost. I forget which one......)
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