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| This is called The False Dichotomy Fallacy unless you are suggesting that our ONLY choice is/was constrained to Brown, Luckley or Philbin
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| Quote ="Wires71"We would be worse off losing any squad player - by definition we have reduced the squad size. Not really an endorsement.
If he was an Aussie import I suggest most would be ambivalent about him.
So, home grown or not, the question to me is "Is Philbin the best player we can get in the #15 shirt for 2025 and beyond?"'"
We'd have been better off losing Matautia last year!!
Jesting aside, i hear what you're saying so looking at the available players next year, which one would you take over Philbs at 15 (and they'd be happy to be 15 and not 8 or 10). Genuine question, not facetious.
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| Quote ="Philth"We'd have been better off losing Matautia last year!!
Jesting aside, i hear what you're saying so looking at the available players next year, which one would you take over Philbs at 15 (and they'd be happy to be 15 and not 8 or 10). Genuine question, not facetious.'"
I don't know who is available now. I wanted McMeeken at the time and I believe he was available. Obviously need to factor in salary cap limitations but based on our exodus of players I would have thought we are significantly under the cap.
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| I take it we’re not sniffing around Amone? I’d like to think we were.
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| I don't think we're looking at another Prop at all with the guys we have.
Vaughan, Harrison, Philbin, Bullock, Musgrove, Crowther, Wood, Okoro, Thomas (once recovered).
We're covered well for prop options, and with Yates potentially coming in who can play Loose, second row and Prop i think we'll be done.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yeah I was just picking up on the "I'm not sure what goes through the head of those who count the stats" comment. Seemed a bit dismissive of stats to me.'"
Don’t beat yourself up over it W71, I’ve edited the “bit” for accuracy… ‘Seamed 25.6% dismissive of stats to me’
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| Quote ="Or thane"I don't think we're looking at another Prop at all with the guys we have.
Vaughan, Harrison, Philbin, Bullock, Musgrove, Crowther, Wood, Okoro, Thomas (once recovered).
We're covered well for prop options, and with Yates potentially coming in who can play Loose, second row and Prop i think we'll be done.'"
Wood, Okoro, Thomas are not tested and cannot be considered ready
Bullock appears out of favour again.
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| Quote ="Wires71"Wood, Okoro, Thomas are not tested and cannot be considered ready
Bullock appears out of favour again.'"
If we get Yates we have enough.
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| Quote ="Smiffy27"If we get Yates we have enough.'"
Yes. I was countering Orthane's view of going into 2025 with Vaughan, Harrison, Philbin, Bullock, Musgrove, Crowther, Wood, Okoro, Thomas (once recovered).
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| Quote ="Wires71"Wood, Okoro, Thomas are not tested and cannot be considered ready
Bullock appears out of favour again.'"
Wood has shown he's ready for super league, and only 20 so has loads of time to develop, time will tell i suppose
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| Quote ="Or thane"Wood has shown he's ready for super league, and only 20 so has loads of time to develop, time will tell i suppose
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Yes he looks a great prospect but is he ready for 27 games in 2025?
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yes he looks a great prospect but is he ready for 27 games in 2025?'"
Good point, i get what you mean, i think he'll be great though and won't let anyone down. So We'll just have to see how he gets on, but i really hope we extend his contract
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| Quote ="Wires71"Yes he looks a great prospect but is he ready for 27 games in 2025?'"
Props don’t mature until late 20s so I think Warrington need to drip feed him increasing his game time during the seasons ahead, but a great prospect on what I’ve seen so far
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| You would think that our coach knows what to look for in a prop. He gave Wood a contract after he was released by Wigan. Can’t see that he has let anyone down so far. Compare and contrast to certain established props (eg 1 released on season long loan).
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| Quote ="Wires71"Wood, Okoro, Thomas are not tested and cannot be considered ready
Bullock appears out of favour again.'"
I agree about Okoro as he has yet to play at Super League level for us yet.
Wood looks ready although he is still young and Thomas was OK in the games he played and had put a lot of muscle on his frame, the last time I saw him.
There is no way we could fit any more than 6/7 established players who can play prop into the Salary Cap without it having a negative effect on the rest of the squad.
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| Quote ="Bobby Digital"I don’t normally bother with stats, but after been at Halton Hospital getting surgery on on my busted elbow.. injured by playing rugby.. I was looking at the Betfred website.. I agree with third man in counting as tackles been a bit misleading because by the time the 3rd man joins, the tackles pretty much completed.. if Yates is joining I fear for Philbin getting much game time next season..'"
you shouldn't be playing rugby at your age.
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| Loved the try today where Fitzgibbon did an about turn for the 2nd Dufty try.
Also he ran some really strong lines as decoy runner allowing others to score. Well done.
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| he runs such good angles, it gives that side of the pitch so much more room to work in.
Literally ever other play the ball down that side, has him running a dangerous line.
He is right up there as one of my fav NFL recruits.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"I think Abe Forman mentioned two front rowers being the available front rowers before Bullock’s contract was extended.
Let’s assume these were Jack Brown and Sam Luckley seeking six figure per year contracts. Would Philbin be such a bad option then?'"
You assume correctly
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| Not clear why Bullock has been given a 2 year contract when he cant make the 21 unless injured - or the alleged fracas has something to do with it....
I do think he's a decent player.
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| Quote ="morleys_deckchair"you shouldn't be playing rugby at your age.'"
Not the first one to make that comment, after my injury.. be back on the pitch before I know it..
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| Quote ="Captain Hook"You would think that our coach knows what to look for in a prop. He gave Wood a contract after he was released by Wigan. Can’t see that he has let anyone down so far. Compare and contrast to certain established props (eg 1 released on season long loan).'"
He might well know what he wants from a prop, but things have gone west with Bullock more times than I can count on one hand.
I question why we gave him a new contract.
He was on a heft contract to pluck him from Wigan, not sure he’s repaid a threepence of it yet.
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| Quote ="rubber duckie"He might well know what he wants from a prop, but things have gone west with Bullock more times than I can count on one hand.
I question why we gave him a new contract.
He was on a heft contract to pluck him from Wigan, not sure he’s repaid a threepence of it yet.'"
and yet, you've never been as harsh with him as you have with vaughan
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| I’m not harsh on Vaughan, I’m disappointed with Vaughan.
Unquestionably talented. Solid performer…
But I sigh at his ability to always find the softest of penalties to find himself enjoying the holidays out of term time.
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| I’ve never understood the phrase “doubling down”. Can someone give me an example?
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