Newman, Leutele, Lynne all improve us massively and that’s just three I can think of quickly.

Why just Super League? We can sign from the NRL too. For example Hiku, who is now going to HKR, would be a much better option than what we currently have.

When we decided to send King out on loan to our rivals (who’s a better centre than both btw) we should have had a replacement lined up.

Anyone know what happened to Parcell? He seemed furious about something when he went off. Hope no-one’s going to be copping a ban. We’re getting pretty thin in the back row now

He seemed to gesture that he'd been caught with an elbow.

Talk about being selective in your examples! We are top of the league despite having real issues with absentees for a fair few matches. Saints beat us but obviously it was their cup final, Wigan played the conditions better than we did. Are we perfect? No. Are we unstoppable? No.
Are we a squillion times better than last season? Yes.
As for checking where we are in September last season we were checking where we were every month and it counted but not in a good way.

Yeah, I saw that. Was wondering if anyone had actually seen anything. Seemed to be missed by everyone at the ground

If we were playing saints next week the 2 nearest players to parcell when he went down would be getting a 1 match suspension.

Still could, will wait with interest on Monday.

Still disturbing ,the early doors lack of enthusiasm to compete against HKR & still the persistent problem of the opposition making excessive yards in possession so we get the ball back in the wrong part of the pitch. I do though live in hope that this is part of a grand plan to condition the team into winning ugly from a losing situation.
Is there a problem between Ratchford & Williams ? There seemed to be a few words exchanged at times. Perhaps there are too many captains in the side.

Ratchford was moaning and moaning again last night, it’s getting rather tedious. He is not Captain material at all.

Williams should be the captain for me, Ratchford probably got it because of how long he as been at the club. Im still trying to figure out why he got a 2 year deal, Mata’utia gone at end of season we have Wrench coming back but no real news on new centres going forward, can only be the reason he got a 2 year deal uncertainty.

I wonder if maybe Ratchford would be better on the right if he is to be a centre ,as some players do have preferred positions. He does certainly look like a square peg in a round hole at the minute.

I have always thought that Ratchford is best when making space for himself & is better in a role of being able to crop up anywhere in attack instead of being shoe horned into a particular slot.

Some of the early comments on this thread are so miserable it is embarrassing & other clubs fans must have a right giggle at us. It is impossible to decide who gets the MMM Award (Moaning Minnie of the Match). But I think there might be a clear winner of the Newcomer Award.

We are always going to be more critical of our own team ... cos we watch them so closely & only see bits of the opposition. But all the main stats say tell us that we are currently the best team in Super League. We are top by 4 points, have the best attack (most points) & the fourth best in defence. As a priority, I reckon we should work on our line speed in defence & our medium/long kicks in attack.

We'll get torn apart one day & some of our players aren't always great but it's the same at every club. I left the ground last night concerned at our ineffective start but encouraged by the fight back against a decent & very committed HKR.

Ratchford played right centre for Wire in the 2012 Challenge Cup game at Wembley, when we beat Leeds.

Chris Bridge was injured, and Ratchford looked quite comfortable playing on the right hand side to cover Bridge`s absence for a lot of games.

complete overhaul of the squad... gone from 2nd worst team in the league, to 4 points clear at the top, in a few months.

and we still have people moaning about the coach and that he hasn't managed to replace ALL OF THEM.

couldn't write it haha (well some people can)

Spot MD..were 4 points clear at the top not 4 points adrift at the bottom..if someone offered me this half way through may I'd snapped there hand off..last night proved this squad will scrap sometimes it won't be pretty but no team will roll over..keep going wire...

Have to agree with the posters who are sick of all the moaning. We've not played well the last 4 games, but we're top of the league and it looks a lot rosier from where we are sat compared to other teams.
And this week it's the centres that come in for stick.

FWIW, the team Ive been most impressed by this year is HKR.
Although we've beaten them twice both could have gone either way - and both times we've not had Abdell to contend with (and who in my view plays with MOS form when he's on the pitch).

Of course we've not got a perfect team or the best players in every position. The only person who has that luxury is the England coach.

Whilst I am aware of our short-comings - and there are quite a few - I prefer to acknowledge those but not let them be the over-riding issue.
Glass half full, far more than glass half empty.

I could've played centre in that team! It was over 10 years ago and he hasn't played centre since. Just keep him in the squad(we've got no choice thanks to the ridiculous TWO year deal)as a cover player.

Smiffy will have his number, and will put a stop to it.

Good spot. Just seen he made 196m last night - awesome.

(That's metres and not miles).

I bet he was complaining about HKR holding down & of course being Captain it's his job to complain so he has an excuse. They really got away with a lot & should have had someone in the bid for persistent offending ... we, of course, were angels.
Once more the six-again rule was used a lot on the first tackle. It is being abused and I think we need more penalties given even if it does slow down the game a bit.

Any six again infringement should be a penalty if it’s in the first two/three tackles of a set. Or even better let’s just get rid of the stupid rule altogether.

Your captain is the only player who can question a referees decision, so yes Ratchford had that right on Friday, and could do so at his discretion. However, there's a time and a place to do it. If it's done during a break in play, then fine, but while the ball is in play then no, as first and foremost a captain (like all players) should be concentrating on the game.

This six again rule given on the first tackle really is way too prevalent, and it makes me wonder if a referee is more likely to enforce the rule early in the tackle count, rather than at the end of a set of six.

It’s a rule that seriously needs to be looked at in the off season at the very least. When it’s the 1st tackle it’s only benefiting the defensive side as it’s giving them time to set their line.

Why not just say that the 6 again rule can be used in the defending teams half if the defending team transgresses. If in the attacking teams half its a penalty to give full benefit of yardage gain with a kick to touch.

Teams would sometimes want a penalty in the opposition half too ... to have the option of a kick at goal.