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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"I don't agree, he watched the draw live with the group so how did he do that with more than one?
If what you suggest is true I'm sure they will have all had to sign secrecy agreements'" I'm not necessarily convinced he was watching them live, he certainly never mentioned they watched it live.
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| Quote ="TheDoc"He just tried to sow seeds of doubt into gullable minds'"
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| Quote ="Rugbychick™"Don't agree at all. If you watch it closely, the camera is moving slightly all the time and moving completely in time on each side of the screen. Derren Brown is too clever for anything as mundane as camera trickery.'"
Dont you believe it. Watch the top of the left hand ball. Its palin for anyone to see
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"did you know they've taken gullible out of the dictionary this year?'"
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Dont you believe it. Watch the top of the left hand ball. Its palin for anyone to see'"
I didn't see her, she must be swift
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Dont you believe it. Watch the top of the left hand ball. Its palin for anyone to see'"
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| Quote ="Tony Catsmith"did you know they've taken gullible out of the dictionary this year?'"
the old ones are the best - QI I believe?
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| Nice one but I meant Michael
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Dont you believe it. Watch the top of the left hand ball. Its palin for anyone to see'" No, it's really not plain for everyone to see, otherwise there would be no confusion.
There have been videos on Youtube focusing in on that left hand ball to show this, yet there is very little that can be seen, and the ball rising by a mm could have perhaps been caused by a draught, or the ping pong ball rolling forward or backwards slightly.
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| Quote ="Dave T"No, it's really not plain for everyone to see, otherwise there would be no confusion.
There have been videos on Youtube focusing in on that left hand ball to show this, yet there is very little that can be seen, and the ball rising by a mm could have perhaps been caused by a draught, or the ping pong ball rolling forward or backwards slightly.'"
that ball rising looks like it's done just because there's nay room in that tray, being squozen(not a word) up slightly.
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| Quote ="Dave T"No, it's really not plain for everyone to see, otherwise there would be no confusion.
There have been videos on Youtube focusing in on that left hand ball to show this, yet there is very little that can be seen, and the ball rising by a mm could have perhaps been caused by a draught, or the ping pong ball rolling forward or backwards slightly.'"
Those balls were sitting in that rack as tight as balls in a jock strap
Blown by wind indeed!!!!!!!!!!
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Those balls were sitting in that rack as tight as balls in a jock strap
Blown by wind indeed!!!!!!!!!!'" So what exactly was plain for all to see. One of the balls raises by about a mm?
Why didn't the others move?
Is it not possible it rolled forward or backwards a mm?
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| Its raised up not leaning forward or backwards.
Not properly put in place by the assistant. Derren will be fuming
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Its raised up not leaning forward or backwards.
Not properly put in place by the assistant. Derren will be fuming'" After watching the youtube videos which 'prove' this theory, I am pretty sure that they 'prove' nothing, and it certainly isn't plain for all to see, as you say.
I don't doubt there was some trickery, but to state it is plain for all to see, is well, just wrong. Otherwise we could all just nip to Youtube and see the proof and put this to bed, but tbh the videos are rubbish.
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| Then you stick with what you believe and I will stick with the truth
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| Just to quash one theory out of extinction. Some people think that the fact the camera was shaking is a sign the whole thing was faked etc. I defy anyone to film a piece of footage hand held (like the cameraman was as we saw on Wednesday) and not make the video shake. Its almost impossible for anyone to hold a piece of equipment like that and there not be some sort of movement. If you don't believe me, look at when Bill Arthur is interviewing a coach or man of the match at the end of a Sky game and you will see the same thing occur.
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| Quote ="Peckerwood"Just to quash one theory out of extinction. Some people think that the fact the camera was shaking is a sign the whole thing was faked etc. I defy anyone to film a piece of footage hand held (like the cameraman was as we saw on Wednesday) and not make the video shake. Its almost impossible for anyone to hold a piece of equipment like that and there not be some sort of movement. If you don't believe me, look at when Bill Arthur is interviewing a coach or man of the match at the end of a Sky game and you will see the same thing occur.'"
oi!
WOTT is gonna be ed you've robbed his specialist subject now.
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| Quote ="TheDoc"Then you stick with what you believe and I will stick with the truth'" I don;t actually disagree with the video trickery theory, in fact I am convinced of it after tonights 'reveal', I just disagree that there is clear proof on the video.
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| Everyone says Brown always explains how, so what did he say? What was his explanation? Can he do this every draw? What exactly did he do? Did he do it or did somebody else do it?
It just seems on here that some are saying it was a camera trick, whilst other people are just saying "no, Brown wouldn't do that", but they haven't explained what he actually did to say he didn't use camera trickery. If it wasn't camera trickery or a rigged machine; what was it?
Why wasn't Brown allowed to show his prediction, say 10 minutes before the draw?
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| look on u tube at a clip entitled derren browns lottery trick - possible solution
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| Quote ="Dave T"I don;t actually disagree with the video trickery theory, in fact I am convinced of it after tonights 'reveal', I just disagree that there is clear proof on the video.'"
if the proof on video was easy to see then it wouldnt be much of a trick - the one mistake that gave it away was the rising ball
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| Quote ="TheDoc"look on u tube at a clip entitled derren browns lottery trick - possible solution'"
Seems simple enough for me. That'll do squire. After watching him actually doing the draw, it seems pretty convincing.
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