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| He's stated that he doesn't want to have to play against the Panthers in his career, so that means his options are limited to English clubs. Sure, he'd rather stay with the Panthers but it doesn't look like that will work out so presumably we're second choice.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"Basically he can't stay at Penrith due to salary cap issues, and he could never see himself lining up against them, therefore, the solution is to come to SL.'"
Yeah accepted, but surely his agent would of had a word to say give it the "think SL is great" blah blah blah.
Looking at footage on you tube yeah looks a great player and "if" he is going to be wearing the P&B I hope he give it his all and not just a meal ticket, awaiting Panthers to come calling, as it appears he will take up a big chunck of the cap
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| But don't get cut up about his mercenary attitude people, if anything it's good that he's honest. IMO there is nothing worse than when a player signs for a club 10,000 miles away and then professes their eternal support for the club and how they used to get up at 4am to watch [Insert name of first club legend found on Google here and can't wait to play in front of the passionate supporters at [Insert name of ground here. The vast majority of NRL players come for one or more of the following reasons:
1 - Financial. They can earn more or over a longer period than they can in the NRL
2 - Disciplinary. An awful lot of imports have made their NRL position untennable due to their behaviour
3 - Escapism. A lot of players get into the NRL system young and have never seen the world. I remember reading about how Jason Hooper had got really excited when Saints went over a stream on the way to Wembley, thinking it was the Thames and trying to take a picture of it. A paid vacation around Europe with a safe ex-pat community on tap is an attractive way to finish a career.
Pretty much all the players in SL are mercenaries. The likes of Brett Hodgson and Matt King included. There are only a few rare examples of people who come over for rugby reasons, and they are usually young players who have failed to capitalise on an NRL place.
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| Quote ="Hicks Is A God"Just threw TW into google and few hits came up, one via twitter has Waterhouse clearly stating to oz press that he is only moving due to Cap issues and really wants to end his career at the Panthers.
If this is the case do we really want a player who is clearly coming for the money and not the fact he wants to play for the wire????'"
I cant think of many players in the Warrington squad who would have grown up wanting to play for Wire.
Hodgson, King, Monaghans, Morley etc.... have pretty much all signed with us for the money or longer contracts.
Im more interested in him trying hard and earning his pay.
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| Even some of the old boys
Woody and Clarke (Wigan fans)
Briers (Saints fan)
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| I dont mean him showing his love for Warrington just a little bit more respect for SL
Yeah I really want him to come and play for us and like JMonas want to stay with us!
But are we all jumping the gun cos he's not signed yet and according to the dedicated visitors he's off to Leeds or anywhere else other than HJ!!
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| In the Sun today, it says we are close to clinching the deal for Stefan Ratchford, and we also have 'run the rule' over Rangi Chase aswell.
Good Stuff.
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| For the way Ratchford played on Sunday, I wouldn't have him a million miles near the club....bone idle
As for Chase...great player, but we allready have an elusive pacy half-back for the next x years, we need a Briers 'wily old fox' replacement
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| From the very little I have seen of Stefan he is not Wire class.
But I do emphasise I have seen very little of him.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"For the way Ratchford played on Sunday, I wouldn't have him a million miles near the club....bone idle
As for Chase...great player, but we allready have an elusive pacy half-back for the next x years, we need a Briers 'wily old fox' replacement'"
I'll debate on this point.
I see Chase as the same type of player than Briers, rather than in the same ilk as Myler (Whom I assume you were comparing with)
If you watch Cas, alot of the moves and kicks are done off Chase, he arranges players and calls moves. I think his style will help compliment Mylers 'off the cuff' and supporting role that he does so well.
Add to that the fact the boy can tackle, I think he'd be reasonably suitable.
Is he my first choice? No
Would I be distraught if we signed him? Probably not
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| I agree with the above. I'm not sure what these players add that we either don't have already or that we can;t bring through in the next two seasons.
IMHO we are in need of at least one prop & a monster back rower.
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| I like both especially chase.
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| Got to love The Sun.
They are abit behind considering one has already signed.
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| I think Briers can perform at this level for another two seasons yet, unless injury plays a part.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"icon_lol.gif Got to love The Sun.
They are abit behind considering one has already signed.'"
Ratchford has already signed.
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"For the way Ratchford played on Sunday, I wouldn't have him a million miles near the club....bone idle
As for Chase...great player, but we allready have an elusive pacy half-back for the next x years, we need a Briers 'wily old fox' replacement'"
Aye but didnt we have a lot of bone idle players here till TS came along.
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| The Sun = Dave 'Nosey' Parker = Walter Mitty
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| Quote ="getdownmonkeyman"The Sun = Dave 'Nosey' Parker = Walter Mitty'"
Same bloke who said Tony Pultetua had signed for Warrington. Believe none of it til the club announce it.
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| Quote ="karetaker"Aye but didnt we have a lot of bone idle players here till TS came along.'"
Smith must see something in him
If he was trying to impress with his performance on Sunday, he came up a long way short
Totally unintersted from the start
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| Quote ="lefty goldblatt"Ratchford....bone idle'"
This! Don't want him. We've got enough centres far better than him and if he can't get 6 or 7 at Salford, why sign him for Wire? He's not replacing Briers, we've got Gaz OB coming through, Myler is starting to show his quality. Just don't understand why we'd want him.
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| Can I just say.....ISWT?
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"This! Don't want him. We've got enough centres far better than him and if he can't get 6 or 7 at Salford, why sign him for Wire? He's not replacing Briers, we've got Gaz OB coming through, Myler is starting to show his quality. Just don't understand why we'd want him.'"
I don't think he'll be playing centre mate. Hodgson's replacement I feel.
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| Quote ="Lord Tony Smith"I don't think he'll be playing centre mate. Hodgson's replacement I feel.'"
So is Riley a gonner then? Taking the route of Penny out the club...
What about the young Hellewell we signed from Bradford? I thought he was being trained as the replacement as why else sign someone so young?! I just dont think there's any room for him.
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| Quote ="Alfie Langer No2"So is Riley a gonner then? Taking the route of Penny out the club...
What about the young Hellewell we signed from Bradford? I thought he was being trained as the replacement as why else sign someone so young?! I just dont think there's any room for him.'"
Think he plays wing for the 20's mainly.
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| Wire fans always complain about Tony Smith's signings.
Solomona - injury prone, spent more time on Bradford's injury table than on the pitch
Hodgson - yes he was good a few years ago but is a 33 year old really the way forwards?
Joel Monaghan - get rid of our best winger Hicks to bring over somebody who was forced out of the NRL in disgrace
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