Its going to be like the good old days...big game v Wigan...and what a surprise..key players missing.

dont see why people sayin we goin to lose against wigan and huddersfield if moz and carvell. they are big losses but wuldn't go that far gives other guys a chance at least

It they get banned they get banned silly play by both and we will just have to deal with it, makes the task harder and gives the pies more confidence but bring it on, Smith will have 4 days to shuffle the pack and choose who replaces them whoever it is will be well up for the battle.

I don't think Morley should be banned and Wood can step up for Carvell with Cooper coming on to the bench. Cooper has already proved himself off the bench in big games so not that concerned.

Played and scored in the semi against them last season as well.

So your saying Carvell delibratley tried to hurt his opponet with use of his elbow. I don't think so, not that type of player IMO.

should these two get banned can we still beat wigan? wigan look very impressive at the moment

IMO yes. we have enough strength in depth. i;e woody and coops. briers has the leadership we will miss from moz.

who will you play as prop's if both are banned?

No I'm not, but it was a careless technique that could have caused very serious injury. If I (and the RFL) thought it was deliberate, he'd be looking at a much, much worse punishment.

can i ask who have they played to make them look impressive cos celtic and hull kr wont be near at the end .dont get it at all

this what i have been saying all week. lets wait and see till they play the big boys i.e us on saturday, leeds and saints etc.

No flipping way.
carvell's is a joke and Morleys should get a ban imo, maybe a match, reckless and stupid.

Against Hull KR which is the only game we can really judge them on i`d say they looked solid rather than being spectacular, they didn`t create a great deal with ball in hand, it was the kicks from Sam Tomkins that did the damage. Apart from the Amos Roberts break away try near the end they didn`t really open up Hull KR that often with ball in hand.

It was a bit similar to us really, we didn`t create a lot with ball in hand, it was mainly our kicks that did the damage, we then had the Lee Briers interception and the last try at the end where he wanted to drop a goal but was closed down quickly forcing him to run to his left where he found Richie Myler who took his try brilliantly.

Our pack offers more than theirs does along with our hookers, we just need to get the backs like Atkins and Bridge into play a bit more as we have an in form winger outside of Chris Bridge and Matt King is always a threat with his height and power close to the line.

Agreed.

I'd say we have an in-form centre too Rob, last week Bridge was electric against Quins, and on Sunday again, he was our most dangerous back. He's the most 'dynamic' of our backs by a mile.

=#8000FFAccidental being Carvell looking sideways towards Jackson then raising his elbow, then yes, it was accidental

both were malicious, pre empted and should both carry a ban, a ref with balls would have sent them both off.

and now you may have your pie

I despair at some of the absolute rubbish on here.

I agree, most people especially the media focus on our big name signings (Riley apart because 5 tries by one player is headline news) yet its players like Chris Bridge who quietly get on with their job and impress under the radar so to speak. If our backline clicks it has the potential to be play spectacular RL, i know which backline i would take out of the 2 teams meeting on saturday and i know which set of forwards i`d take.

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I'm asking her Rob, rather than sort of, how can I put it 'trying to get one up' so take it that way.

Have you changed your views on Bridge now ? You appear to have.

You were firmly in the camp of 'jack of all trades', even recently you saw him as solid as oppose to 'class' and we sort of disagreed, I know it's only two games in like, but is he winning you over ?

JWP is Bridge your lovechild or something?

He has performed ok this season but nowhere near as well as you have made out

No ive not changed my views on him, i just think he`s a fairly solid centre rather than being a match winner on a regular basis.

I view types of centres in this way.

1. You have the Bateman, Davies and Blake type centres, highly skilful and very nimble footed and can step past the opposition in the blink of an eye with a great turn of foot.

2. You then have the power type centres with the likes of Joe Ropati and Keith Senior as good examples, that type of centre will quite often run straight over their opposite number or use a powerful hand off to create the break.

3. You then have the ultimate world class centres that can combine both the above like Mal Meninga, Mark Gasnier, Jamie Lyon (At his peak) and Greg Inglis just to name a few.

You then have ones that i would class as solid centres like Bridge and Yeaman, they just quietly get on with things and do the basics well rather than being in the above catagories.

That just leaves the likes of Paul Sykes to their own unique catagory