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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"But still, that's still only £90k left to spend on Gleeson'"
But he is joing the most famous club in the world etc etc!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"But he is joing the most famous club in the world etc etc!
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Man Utd?
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"But still, that's still only £90k left to spend on Gleeson'"
But his salary until the end of the season wouldn't be £150 K.
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| Quote ="Rogues Gallery"But his salary until the end of the season wouldn't be £150 K.'"
That's irrelevant, not how the cap works now. If you pay a player £75k for 6 months work, he'll eat up £150k on the cap.
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| Quote ="SEB"That's irrelevant, not how the cap works now. If you pay a player £75k for 6 months work, he'll eat up £150k on the cap.'"
No!
I Don't think that's quite right!
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| Quote ="Jukesays"No!
I Don't think that's quite right!'"
Yes! I think it is!
Have YOU read Salary Cap Regulations Clause 5.4.2? No? Thought not.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"No!
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What do you mean "No"?
The salary cap rules are there for everybody to read.
Whether Wigan pay Gleeson £30k this year and £220k the year after is a different story.
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"What do you mean "No"?
The salary cap rules are there for everybody to read.
Whether Wigan pay Gleeson £30k this year and £220k the year after is a different story.'"
Correct!
Read what SEB put, That's what I said was Wrong!
If Wigan sign a contract with him 3rd April for 60k for this year that's what goes on the cap, he may be on 150k or whatever next year!
SEB was saying if we pay him 60k now you must Pro Rata that for the whole year, that isn't correct!
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"What do you mean "No"?
The salary cap rules are there for everybody to read.
Whether Wigan pay Gleeson £30k this year and £220k the year after is a different story.'"
Wow, that would eat up cap for 2010!
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| 5.4.2 where the Club proposes to register a Player part-way through the Salary
Cap Year, the RSCM shall calculate the Salary Cap Value of the Player, in
accordance with the usual principles, as if the Player was employed by the
Club for the entire Salary Cap Year.
Comment to Clause 5.4.2: For example, where a Player enters into a Playing Contract
with a new Club commencing on 1 June (ie 6 months into the Salary Cap Year) and
providing that he will (for the remaining six months of the Salary Cap Year): (i) be paid
a Gross salary of £5,000 per month; (ii) receive benefits to the Gross value of £1,000
per month; and (iii) be paid £250 per appearance, for the purposes of the Regulations,
the Salary Cap Value for that Player, as at the date of joining the new Club, will be
£76,500, calculated as follows:
(i) £60,000 (ie £5,000 salary per month x 12 months);
(ii) £12,000 (ie £1,000 benefits per month x 12 months); and
(iii) £4,500 (ie £250 per appearance x 18 assumed appearances, in
accordance with clause 5.6.3, below).
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Correct!
Read what SEB put, That's what I said was Wrong!
If Wigan sign a contract with him 3rd April for 60k for this year that's what goes on the cap, he may be on 150k or whatever next year!
SEB was saying if we pay him 60k now you must Pro Rata that for the whole year, that isn't correct!'"
Yes - IT IS! Do you not understand simple rules?
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| Booo cockers, you should have let him squirm for a bit longer.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"Correct!
Read what SEB put, That's what I said was Wrong!
If Wigan sign a contract with him 3rd April for 60k for this year that's what goes on the cap, he may be on 150k or whatever next year!
SEB was saying if we pay him 60k now you must Pro Rata that for the whole year, that isn't correct!'"
What SEB put was right. Pay Gleeson £75k for six months and thats £150k on the cap.
Just admit you haven't a clue.
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| Quote ="SEB"Booo cockers, you should have let him squirm for a bit longer.'"
Meh, spent all that time reading through it, had to gain something out of it
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| So am I right in saying if Gleeson goes to wigan this year, with them having 30k left on the cap he would have to go for a £15k contract..?
If thats right thats almost Radlinski-esq
you can get that stacking shelves
thats some love for wigan
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| Quote ="the flying biscuit"So am I right in saying if Gleeson goes to wigan this year, with them having 30k left on the cap he would have to go for a £15k contract..?
If thats right thats almost Radlinski-esq
you can get that stacking shelves
thats some love for wigan'"
If it's correct they have £30k left and they don't release anyone - pretty much yes. As we are still in April, rather than June, it would be a bit more then £15k but not much.
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| Jukesays has gone very quiet - no apology?
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| Quote ="SEB"If it's correct they have £30k left and they don't release anyone - pretty much yes. As we are still in April, rather than June, it would be a bit more then £15k but not much.'"
If they released Phelps and Mathers, would their whole salary become available, or just half of it?
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| Quote ="Paul Youane"What SEB put was right. Pay Gleeson £75k for six months and thats £150k on the cap.
Just admit you haven't a clue.'"
I'll admit I may not have a clue about the Salary Cap ! That's about all though!
Just explain to me what happens to the contracts of the players that leave the club part way through the year!
i.e If Mathers/Goulding/Phelps etc move on to make way or Gleesons contract with Wire does their contracts only count up to the point of them leaving???
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| Quote ="SEB"Jukesays has gone very quiet - no apology?'"
You wanted that very quick didn't you! Time of the Month?
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| Quote ="RAI of Sunshine"If they released Phelps and Mathers, would their whole salary become available, or just half of it?'"
Whole salary.
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| Quote ="Jukesays"I'll admit I may not have a clue about the Salary Cap
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Well done. Suggestion - don't shoot your mouth off about things you don't understand! Saves you being made to look silly.
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| Quote ="SEB"Whole salary.'"
So assuming Mathers is on 60k, plus the £15k left on the cap, that means they'll have to clear up £75k on the cap, just to match what we are paying him
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| Quote ="Jukesays"You wanted that very quick didn't you! Time of the Month?
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Not at all, just don't get people who don't understand things trying to correct people who do!
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| Quote ="SEB"If it's correct they have £30k left and they don't release anyone - pretty much yes. As we are still in April, rather than June, it would be a bit more then £15k but not much.'"
People are missing the point. Lenaghan said we had 30k left after what we offered to Greg Bird, so say that was 70K, we would have 100K.
Its all guesswork anyway until a deal is confirmed/denied officially
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