Idear accommodate them both.
Sandow and Ratchet in the halves.
Gidleigh to fb.
Russell back to left wing and alas Penny drops out.
Kev made some errors that could have been costly. One wasn't entirely his fault, a poor offload from Atkns made him look bad.
Enough of a bolloc to drop him.
Can't drop Tom Lineham.

Penny's second drop was a blatant knock out by the Hull player. He went directly for the ball and it should have been a knock on against Hull.

If Dwyer is not fit have Gidley as reserve hooker on the bench.

Gidley is unfit due to hamstring problem. No brainer for me.....he doesnt play. Against Saints we will have to be 100% physically and mentally.

At the end of last nights game when the players were on the pitch I was watching Gidley intently and he was deffo limping.

Ratchet Gidleigh. That was some night.

Think we should remember Gidley was brought in as a full back , was circumstance that lead to him partnering Sandow. I would like to see him in that role, but Russell did a good job yesterday.

From what I hear, Gidley wont be fit for next week anyway and Sandow still not right either..

No good playing unfit players if we have perfectly capable reserves. Every player from last night deserves a start on Thursday.

It's hard to look to make changes for anyone who played last night..

Keep the same team for me. If Bailey is fit I'd have him on the bench.

Gidley to me just wants to organise fast direct play down the middle and kick the opposition into a corner and repeat. So basically... He wants us playing boring NRL style, scoring off other teams mistakes. Against Hull I saw the old Wire again. A bit of off the cuff, play what's in front of you style. Taking chances and throwing the ball about. It's what we do best.

Would that be the same Gidley that's been playing most of the season who playing boring NRL style got us in a position to win the LLS and who when he went off at Wembley we went on to get beat? Just saying!

Correct. We've also scraped a great deal of games that should have been put to bed.

He as a point though,or would you rather we lost them games to prove yours, end of day 2 points is 2 points and we are we're we are because of it.

Hats off to Tony Smith and all the coaches and players for Friday nights performance. Ate my words and a big helping of humble pie.
With regards to the team selection this week hopefully our choice of player will be giving the saints coaching staff a bigger headache than it will be for our coaching staff. The Hull game would be a big swerve ball for Saints. I could have a good go at naming the saints, Wigan and Hull line ups for this weekend but I wouldn't have a clue about ours. Must be difficult to prepare when you don't know who you will be lining up against. The only dead certs for positions will be 4.8.9.10,12 and 13. The rest is in Tony Smiths head or down to a game of rock, paper, scissors.

What I mean is we've been in front and then just managed to hold on. Or just managed to scrape a win. Go back to the satart of the season and again playing off the cuff and with flair and we were running circles around teams. Sandow gets injured and we turned to 4 drives and a kick. and that's where saw our perfomances start to drop slightly.

I'm not saying it's a bad thing the way we've been playing (players out of position have been the biggest problem) but we do suit playing that free flowing instinctive style. We're a team of intelligent players who play better creatively.

Don't know what game you watched.

We started throwing it away again by throwing it around and knocking on until we started playing boring rugby and capitalising on Hull errors.

Yes, I am not a fan of too much champagne rugby either. Nothing wrong with moving the ball (and big opposition forwards) around. Nothing wrong with fast ptb and exploiting any gaps, but when we get a bit of success it seems to go to our heads and we end up playing volley ball, followed by tears at bedtime. I think it all stems from the approach that TS engenders. Anyone remember when we never took at kick at goal and always chose to tap the ball instead ? And the charge-downs ? Gidley seems to nicely balance our more flamboyant style and to bring a bit more percentage play into the game. And even the mercurial Sandow seems to put in quite a few very high balls to the touchline on the last play. I like what we have at the moment (providing Gidley's body manages to hold together next year.)

We still do charge-downs all the time! Though I'm personally a fan of them, not because they pay off a lot but because of the incredible kick pressure on the other team.

Also I'm pretty sure I saw TS shaking his head for at least one of the penalties we kicked on Friday

The style to play on Thursday.....play as we've done all season. Take risks, but nothing too "devil-may-care".

However, should we have a six point lead at any time, and an easyish 2 points on offer......TAKE THE 2. We're playing knock out rugby, now.Winning is all that matters. I know I've said I go to games to be entertained, but it's trophy time, now.

I've had enough of us being plucky (but entertaining) losers. It's time for us to deliver.

On Thursday we should play at 110mph. Just like Leeds did to us back in 2011.

At this stage of the competition the successful teams seem to be the ones that get away with bending the rules to the nth degree.

So you're saying it's a Wigan v Wigan final then?

Perm any two from Wigan ,Leeds or Saints.

Looks like Gidley is in for the semi, I would guess that means Patton misses out.