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| Lets not forget this guy was in our challenge cup winning team.. scored a try. he will be in the wire history books.. its a shame realy.
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| Personally I question the wisdom of replacing a 26 year old with a 32 year old,no matter who the 32 year old is. Shouldn't we really have been looking for someone younger?
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| Quote ="Wilderspool memories"Personally I question the wisdom of replacing a 26 year old with a 32 year old,no matter who the 32 year old is. Shouldn't we really have been looking for someone younger?'"
Sometimes you need long term players sometimes especially quota players they are only short term.
Ask any fan of any club if they'd have Moz in their team for just one season in 2011 ?
I know what the answer would be.
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| Quote ="Wire_Yed"Sometimes you need long term players sometimes especially quota players they are only short term.
Ask any fan of any club if they'd have Moz in their team for just one season in 2011 ?
I know what the answer would be.'"
Fair point but let's be honest mathers was a top full back for leeds and in his previous loan spell with us in 2002,should we not be working on him to get him back to that standard?
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| I know he's prone to at least one error a game and sometimes it's cost us a try, but as has been previously pointed out, mistakes are more noticable at the back, however I do believe that he's one of the people, along with Mr Smith that has resposible for the turnaround from the perennial under achievers to a cup winning side and team that's currently second in the league.
The team that won the cup wasn't vastly different to the team that started last season in disasterous style, the difference being it was a team with professional attitude towards the game, both on and off the pitch and also wanted to work for each other. Mr Smith will have promoted this, but Mr Mathers will have been one of the chief exponents and therefore will have help spread the gospel according to Mr Smith.
Many people have a pop at him for his back slapping, but I genuinely feel that it helps the team and that his overall contribution to the team outways the odd mistake here and there. As always we will trust Mr Smith and his judgement, but whether he stays or goes, I think we should be thankful for all he's done during his time with us and wish him well for the future.
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| Top be honest how do we know he's going ?
Not yet confirmed all though it's been implied, it may not be so.
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| I agree, it's only implied at the moment. If you look at RM's bio on twitter it reads "Its all about being the best dressed doll in the window", up until yesterday it read something along the lines of "Warrington Wolves Fullback".
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| You are quite right.
Yes, all signs point to Hodgson signing which would surely come hand in hand with Mathers leaving.
However in a game like rugby league you are never more than one unlucky tackle away from a career ending injury (especially at his age), or even just deciding you have had enough at the end of the season (for example Stacey Jones).
I hope as a set of fans we are able to get behind Mathers, bring out his best form, and if it does prove to be his last season with us, give him a great send off.
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| Tony Smith is not saying anything about all of this and i am sure he will let all who need to know when he thinks it is right. He will have a plan for Mathers . He hasnt played him for fun and i am sure he wont let him go without giving serious consideration for his future. Smith cares about his players and their future. Dont take it for granted that Richie is on his way.I have a feeling that Smith knew all this would break and speculation take over while he quietly and calmly gets on with his master plan.
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| lets cheer extra loud when his name gets annouced before the game just to let him know we want him to stay. im still hopeing he stays as hes one of my fave players
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| One of his "tweets" even with all the talk of him maybe being pushed out he will still put in 100% he is that kind of guy! I might be one of few but i dont want him to go anywhere! MATHERS IS A WIRE!!!
"as for the hodgson rumours I'm in the dark... I'll keep my head down work hard for the team and boys as it's a questions I can't answer...
7:06 AM Apr 21st via API "
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| Quote ="howks1030"I agree, it's only implied at the moment. If you look at RM's bio on twitter it reads "Its all about being the best dressed doll in the window", up until yesterday it read something along the lines of "Warrington Wolves Fullback".'"
was the "best dressed doll in the window" about his new Puma boots??
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| Quote ="Wire_Storm"was the "best dressed doll in the window" about his new Puma boots??'"
I think this is more about him now being in the shop window and hoping to attract the interest of other clubs.
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| It is a shame he isn't one of those players who cannot slot in genuinely effectively elsewhere e.g. Hicks and Riley wing to fullback or Matt King wing to centre.
I would love to see him stay.
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| Quote ="Rugby"I think this is more about him now being in the shop window and hoping to attract the interest of other clubs.'"
i only ask because another of his "tweets" was
"gonna crack open some new Pumas this weekend want to be the best dressed doll in the window...."
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| So long as he has a Wire shirt on, support him....simple.
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| Suppose his Twitter page has helped people see more of the life of a Rugby League player, good and bad.
It seems the rumours are true, and we see the stories behind the gossip, and have to feel sorry for himin some degree.
However, maybe some of the more "obvious" tweets are not suitable for such a public place, after all, It was the club who encouraged him to start it.
Do wonder if he could ever fit in elsewhere, stand off?
End of day until they say differently, he is still a Wire player and will support him 100%.
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| i was thinking about this the other day, the poor lad gets hammered every time he drops the ball, yet his form going forward has been good recently, you look at who slots in when briers and the like have been injured, hes been involved in a few of our trys recently if not scoring, then in the build up. if we assume that hicks is going, then we need someone to replace him, mathers may not be a natural winger, but we know for sure he has pace and he can break tackles, something some wingers struggle with. if we sign hodgson... he is our fullback, fine... but then we need to sign someone else to replace hicks. I think we should keep the boy on and move him out to replace hicks, i know it sounds stupid... but he is dedicated to the club, he loves playing for tony smith, and i think thats something that is hurting him the most, as well as being fobbed off by the club so early in the season... i think the club has handled things very harshly.... how can we expect him to put 100% in to everything knowing that the club arent really bothered! We are treating him the same way as wigan did, and thats horrible... its just a shame that a lad has obviously in less than a week gone from being fully commited and looking forward to the games every week, to down in the dumps! i for one will be cheering the lad on throughout the rest of his time with us.... and i plead for all of us wire fans to do the same... imagine if you were told you were working for your job, youd need all the support you could get... lets give it to the lad for giving us his all everytime he steps onto the pitch! MATHERS IS A WIRE ( long may it stay that way)!!
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| Mathers isn't good enough. The majority of us know that and so does TS and Simon Moran. As a club, how have we rectified this? Sign the current MoS. It's a marker to exactly just how far we have progressed as a club since TS joined.
Mathers = Nice chap, good professional, average player = doesn't meet standard set. In years gone by we would have seen him signing a 4 year contract round about now and we'd all be up in arms
This is another major jigsaw piece. LF and a new prop for 2011 would complete the squad.
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| No room for sentimentality in sport.
I don't doubt for a second that Richie will do the best he can do for aslong as he is a Warrington player. And that is all we can hope for, which is the same for any player.
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| Slightly different circumstances but he knew he was leaving Leeds and he left a winner.
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| Its very easy to compare current players less favourbly than those at other clubs. Players at the moment will get slated for their mistakes on the pitch but "good stuff" will be forgotten (eg: Kevin Penny's speed outwayed by the fact that he couldnt catch a cold). Players at other clubs will be remember the brilliant plays that opponents did to us. BH maybe the current man of steel but that was an award made LAST year and dont foget he never even turned up in the final.
Personally, as long as whoever pulls that shirt on each week gives his best for the club, the team and the fans they get my vote. Its up to TS who he thinks is ready to be given the shirt.
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| Feel for Mathers has he is a hardworker and a top bloke. The lads effort and commitment cannot be faulted, if we were told that RM would leave at the end of the season, i'd like to think he would get a great send off he as been a good player for us and nobody can forget his fantastic Wembley performance.
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| Looks like he's reacted well. 2 tries early for you. (Make that a hat-trick.)
Mathers has wlays been the player that bounced around with back slaps and high fives, looking to get everyone going. Grat guy to have around the place but as people have said, in sport you look for people to improve your team.
Clearly hasn't worked out for him since he left us. Always going to be difficult to come back from 2 knee reconstructions so early in a career.
I have no doubts he'll find another Superleague club.
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| No Brett Hodgson in the Huddersfield team today.
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